The Tabernacle Podcast

The Tabernacle Podcast

By The Tabernacle

The Tabernacle podcast exists to inform and equip followers of Jesus to keep in the fight. Through scripture, stories, and some below average jokes our hosts John Vermilya and Britton Bishop do their best to help the Church continue in the mission to Love God. Love People. and Make Disciples.
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232. Why Youth Group?

The Tabernacle PodcastSep 16, 2026
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232. Why Youth Group?

232. Why Youth Group?

Martin Rizzi and our new TAByouth pastors Blake Simons, Dan Hyde, and Cai Johns sit down to discuss why youth ministry is vital to the life of the church. Listen as they share what TAByouth will look like under the new guard and also what has most impacted their ministry philosophy.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com

Sep 16, 202601:02:48
231. In Polite Company | With Beau Vore

231. In Polite Company | With Beau Vore

John sits down with Beau Vore to hear about his radio show and how God is using it to point people to Jesus. They talk about sticky issues like AI, aliens, even Melchizedek, and try to help engage people with God's Word. Beau does not hold back in how he believes every Christian can similarly be a domino in making disciples.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com

Jun 10, 202601:38:32
230. Changed Life Story | Blake Simons

230. Changed Life Story | Blake Simons

John and Adam Sharp sit down with Blake Simons, our Manistee Youth Pastor, to hear his changed life story. Blake shares how growing up in a Christian home led him to faith, but also how he learned early on to live a double life. Through those struggles and the twists and turns of his vocational journey, he explains how God drew him to Himself while preparing and leading him into pastoral ministry.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com

Jun 03, 202601:11:38
229. Faith Like A Child | With Tim, Adam, and Kris
May 27, 202601:11:40
228. The Good Work | With Rachel, Haley & Norah

228. The Good Work | With Rachel, Haley & Norah

John's guests are Rachel Vore, Haley Kroupa, and Norah Kuhn, who break down what God did through the 2026 TABwomen's retreat. They talk about how God worked their retreat theme 'The Good Work' throughout their planning, execution, through the speaker, and even in their own lives in a podcast that will be a blessing to both women and men.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com

May 20, 202601:06:26
227. One Prayer Away | With Terry Umlor
May 13, 202601:16:52
226. Saved Now Sent | With Tim and Adam

226. Saved Now Sent | With Tim and Adam

John is joined by Tim Burgess and Adam Ray to discuss how Christians are saved by God and then sent out to serve Him. They talk about how many Christians get stuck between the saved and sent part, and miss a vital part of growth by not giving God their 'yes.' They dig into Ephesians 2 & 4, and apply it to real people serving inside and outside of church.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com


May 06, 202601:03:34
225. Changed Life | With David Hoeflinger

225. Changed Life | With David Hoeflinger

John and Tim are joined by David Hoeflinger to hear his changed life story. David and his wife Lindsay have served on staff at the Tabernacle for almost eight years, helping to plant the Manistee campus. David talks about his upbringing in a Christian home and how his gifts in music and media were developed early on. He also shares the times he has wandered away from God and how he found his way back through the faithfulness of the Lord.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com


Apr 29, 202601:22:37
224. Miles Apart, Mission Aligned | With Noah & Hannah Dudley

224. Miles Apart, Mission Aligned | With Noah & Hannah Dudley

Today, Martin is joined by Noah and Hannah Dudley as they share the God moments that brought them together and the faith that’s held them firm. Through hardship, heartbreak, and seasons of separation, their trust in God and commitment to His mission have never wavered. Their story is one of resilience, purpose, and unwavering hope. We can’t wait to see where He leads them next.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com

Apr 22, 202601:20:04
223. In The Dumps | With Adam, Adam, and Martin

223. In The Dumps | With Adam, Adam, and Martin

John is joined by pastors Adam Ray, Martin Rizzi, and Adam Sharp to talk about anxiety, depression, and spiritual apathy. They all share about times when they have experienced this, and practical steps to get out of these cycles. They talk about the importance of believing the Truth, the importance of self-care, and why community becomes so important. If you need encouragement, this podcast is for you.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com

Apr 15, 202601:07:41
222. Digital Distance | With Braydon & Gabby

222. Digital Distance | With Braydon & Gabby

John sits down with Braydon and Gabby Cromwell to explore the growing crisis of loneliness in our hyper-connected world. They discuss why more people are living in isolation despite constant digital connection, why that matters, and how choosing real, Christ-centered community opens the door for God to heal and restore hearts.


To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit: https://thetabchurch.com

Apr 01, 202601:27:47
221. Eternity In Our Hearts | With Jonathon Sherwin

221. Eternity In Our Hearts | With Jonathon Sherwin

John and Adam Ray sit down with our Sportsman's Banquet speaker, Jonathon Sherwin, to break down the deep wisdom of Ecclesiastes chapter 3. They talk about how the beauty of creation points us to the Creator and His divine nature, and of course there are some hunting and fishing stories along the way.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Mar 25, 202601:08:45
220. There Was Jesus Part 2 | With Heidi Burgess

220. There Was Jesus Part 2 | With Heidi Burgess

John and Rachel Vore are joined by Heidi Burgess to hear the second part of her changed life story. They talk about her journey into marriage, sobriety, through Al-Anon, freedom from bulimia, hard seasons in parenting, and how they got to the Tabernacle. Heidi's story is a powerful testimony of how through it all Jesus was there - caring, sustaining, and teaching.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Mar 18, 202601:47:32
219. There Was Jesus Part 1 | With Heidi Burgess

219. There Was Jesus Part 1 | With Heidi Burgess

John and Rachel Vore are joined by Heidi Burgess to hear her changed life story. From her early roots in Iowa to encountering Jesus in middle school, Heidi tells of how she then ran from God in her 20's in an effort to fit in. Heidi pulls no punches in sharing the depths of being far from God, but how all along the way she could see His sovereign hand.To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Mar 11, 202601:15:11
218. Trauma Redeemed | With Tim and Martin
Mar 04, 202601:16:39
217. You Can Change | With Dave Carlson

217. You Can Change | With Dave Carlson

John and Adam have a great conversation with Dave Carlson about how you can change with God's help. They talk about the work of the Holy Spirit when we sit in rows on a weekend, and also when we sit in the circles of a small group. Specifically, they dig into what happens when the change occurs by believing in the essential nature of God: that He is great, good, glorious, and gracious.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Feb 25, 202601:15:42
216. Responding To The Headlines | With Tim & Martin.mp4

216. Responding To The Headlines | With Tim & Martin.mp4

John is joined by Tim Burgess and Martin Rizzi to talk about how Christians should respond to the chaos of current events. From ICE protests, to partisan fights in Congress, Epstein list, and even the Super Bowl halftime show, they offer Biblical insights on how to live as the calm and peaceful people God calls us to be.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Feb 18, 202601:02:35
215. Fortifying Your Marriage | With Tim & Adam

215. Fortifying Your Marriage | With Tim & Adam

John is joined by Tim Burgess and Adam Ray to recap the recent Fortify marriage event. They review the highlights of each session, share more insights on how we can glorify God in our marriages, and answer some of the questions we didn't get to during the event.

To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Feb 11, 202601:24:24
214. The Next Yes | With Tracy Romzek & Haley Kroupa

214. The Next Yes | With Tracy Romzek & Haley Kroupa

Martin is joined by two generations of Tabernacle Women whose stories speak to the blessing of open handed faith. Tracy Romzek and Haley Kroupa walk through Tracy’s stories of struggle and redemption. As Tracy continues to seek God’s will, she shares the story behind her next “yes,” making for a conversation that is deeply moving and forward-looking.To learn more about The Tabernacle, visit us at: https://thetabchurch.com

Feb 04, 202601:02:47
213. God's Thumb In Your Back | With Keith & Rhoda Ackerman

213. God's Thumb In Your Back | With Keith & Rhoda Ackerman

John is joined by Keith & Rhoda Ackerman, part of the Tabernacle family and missionaries to Pakistan. They share how they came to faith, were called to missions, and some hair-raising stories of adventures first in Honduras and for the past fifteen years serving the Christian Hospital Sahiwal.


To support nursing scholarships go to: https://worldwitness.org/nurse-students.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://www.thetabchurch.com

Jan 28, 202601:31:09
212. Ego Is The Enemy | With John & Adam Ray

212. Ego Is The Enemy | With John & Adam Ray

John and Adam Ray kick off 2026 with a discussion about Biblical leadership. They share principles and lessons learned from Scripture and experience that apply to ministry, business, parenting, athletics, and life. They talk about servant-leadership, sharing responsibility, giving credit to the team, and in everything exalting Christ as a leader.To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Jan 21, 202601:02:33
211. Where Justice Meets Grace | Christ On The Police Force

211. Where Justice Meets Grace | Christ On The Police Force

Martin sits down with officer Matt Clark of the MIchigan State Police and Caleb Andrist formerly of the Nashville PD to discuss what it is like to be a Christian in law enforcement.  Both men share profound stories about the impact of Christ in their profession while Martin confesses the bias he faced toward police for much of his early life. Rooted in Romans 13, we explore where God’s justice and its “avengers” meet His grace. 


Nov 26, 202501:05:43
210. Changed Lives | With Cole & Lynn Bringold
Nov 19, 202501:35:50
209. Fact-Checking Acts Part 2 | With John & Martin

209. Fact-Checking Acts Part 2 | With John & Martin

John and Martin continue the discussion on difficult passages and questions that arise from the Book of Acts, such as whether repentance is a gift of God or an act of man, can Christians get blood transfusions, and why Paul quoted pagan poets. We also find out why John refers to our executive producer as 'Lord' Matthew Corey Hughes.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Nov 12, 202501:27:09
208. Small Hearts, Big Gospel | With Isabel, Haley, & Josh

208. Small Hearts, Big Gospel | With Isabel, Haley, & Josh

John is joined by Isabel Crawford, Haley Kroupa, and Josh Sprunger to talk about children's ministry at the Tabernacle. They talk about the theology and the mission, and their motivation to serve children, teaching them the Gospel. They also share how children at the Tabernacle are taught the 'big story-line' of the Bible, pointing everything to Jesus.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Nov 05, 202501:03:08
207. Tabernacle Legend | Grant Sheets

207. Tabernacle Legend | Grant Sheets

John and Martin are joined by Grant Sheets, a long time member of the Tabernacle family who has impacted so many lives. Grant shares how he came to faith, and how he and his wife were "all in" from the beginning. Grant talks about God's faithfulness, miracles witnessed, and stories of living a domino lifestyle while pointing anyone and everyone to Jesus.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Oct 29, 202501:21:24
206. Fact-Checking Acts Part 1 | With Adam & Martin

206. Fact-Checking Acts Part 1 | With Adam & Martin

John is joined by Adam Ray and Martin Rizzi to talk about difficult passages or questions that arise from the Book of Acts. Questions like whether or not David went to heaven, was the early church communist, and is baptism required for salvation. They also talk about the exclusive claim that Jesus is the only way, and how that impacts our lives and culture.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Oct 22, 202501:29:22
205. Margins | With Victoria & Rachel

205. Margins | With Victoria & Rachel

John is joined by Victoria Hughes and Rachel Vore to talk about the importance of margins in our busy lives. This is a follow-on to Victoria's powerful teaching at the Women of Valor night, where she shared how God has been working this into her heart. They talk about balancing rest and business, the importance of leaving space for God's divine appointments, and why we should stop trying to fulfill our potential.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Oct 15, 202501:29:06
204. Dominated By The Spirit

204. Dominated By The Spirit

John is joined by pastors Adam, Martin, and Braydon to discuss what it means to be filled with the Holy Spirit daily. They talk about what the Spirit's role is in the Trinity, and what Scripture says about walking according to the Spirit. They each share real life examples of what keeping in step with the Spirit looks like, including reference to giving thanks over spilled toast.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Oct 08, 202501:23:11
203. Never Enough | With Cassie Rizzi

203. Never Enough | With Cassie Rizzi

In today’s podcast, Martin and Rachel are joined by Cassie Rizzi. Cassie shares her changed life story, sharing how she has lived much of her life in two worlds, never feeling like she was enough for either. By God’s grace she found freedom knowing that He meets us right where we are, even in a dusty Indiana farm town.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com



Oct 01, 202501:14:57
202. Martyred For The Faith | Charlie Kirk

202. Martyred For The Faith | Charlie Kirk

John and Adam are joined by Braydon and Gabby Cromwell to respond to the Charlie Kirk assassination. They break down who Kirk was, his faith, his massive influence on Gen Z, and the impact of his brutal death. They also talk about the response of Christians worldwide, and how Kirk's murder should inspire us to proclaim God's Truth fearlessly, boldly, and with love.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Sep 24, 202501:14:09
201. Sacred Playgrounds | With Ben Rudolph
Sep 17, 202501:17:51
200. Living In Your True Identity | With Kelly Findley
Sep 10, 202501:00:51
199. Alaska | The Final Frontier

199. Alaska | The Final Frontier

John sits down again with Adam Ray and Adam Sharp to hear about their recent ministry scouting mission to Alaska. They share about the challenges that pastors and churches in Alaska are facing and how the Tabernacle can come alongside them, Adam Sharp shares his first impressions of the raw beauty and wildlife of our largest state, and Adam Ray lays out a vision for the Tabernacle to send building teams in the next year. 


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Sep 03, 202501:10:05
198. Nephilim & the Book of Enoch

198. Nephilim & the Book of Enoch

John and Martin dive into these hot topics that are flooding social media feeds, YouTube and streaming documentaries. They provide Christians that are serious about following Jesus and trusting their Bible a Gospel-centered, biblical response to these fringe discussions and conspiracy theories. This podcast will help any believer "always be prepared to give an answer."


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Aug 27, 202501:20:03
197. Dependent | With Brayden & Gabby Cromwell Part 2

197. Dependent | With Brayden & Gabby Cromwell Part 2

John sits down again with Braydon & Gabby to hear part two of their inspiring story. They talk about the injuries that ended both of their athletic careers, the birth of their daughter Harper while in college and learning that she is blind in one eye, and they share deep lessons learned about depending on Jesus and how God has proved that He is faithful.

To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: https://thetabchurch.com

Aug 20, 202501:29:49
196. Take Action - Don't Walk In Darkness Alone
Aug 13, 202559:21
195. Gossiping the Gospel | With Gary Gilmore

195. Gossiping the Gospel | With Gary Gilmore

John and Adam are joined by Gary Gilmore to talk about the importance of ordinary, unnamed, and uncelebrated believers sharing the Gospel in everyday life. Gary served at the 2024 Lausanne Congress on evangelism and shares lessons learned while providing security for the Chinese house church delegation.


You can learn more about the Lausanne movement at lausanne.org


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: thetabchurch.com

Jun 25, 202501:36:15
194. Calling | With Brayden & Gabby Cromwell Part 1

194. Calling | With Brayden & Gabby Cromwell Part 1

John is joined by Brayden and Gabby Cromwell as they share their changed life stories. Originally from a farm in Montana, Brayden joined the Tabernacle staff to work with youth and young adults. He and Gabby talk about their athletic careers through high school and college, how Christ changed their lives, and what they learned about God when athletics was taken away from one of them.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: thetabchurch.com

Jun 18, 202501:08:21
193. Follow | With Jim & Jeanette Vermilya

193. Follow | With Jim & Jeanette Vermilya

John is joined by his parents to talk about their 60-year ministry journey of following Jesus to the mission fields of Jamaica and Haiti, pastoring local churches, hospitality and beyond. These ministry legends share some of the adventure and lessons learned from being all-in for Jesus, and trusting the One "who giveth more grace."


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: thetabchurch.com

Jun 11, 202501:50:18
192. Unplanned Pregnancies | With Avery McCutcheon

192. Unplanned Pregnancies | With Avery McCutcheon

John and Martin are joined by Avery McCutcheon, Executive Director of Thrive Medical Clinic. She shares how the Thrive ministry serves people who are vulnerable to abortion with love, support, and resources.

Learn more about Thrive at thrivemedicalclinic.org, and to support them financially at friendsoftmc.org

To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: thetabchurch.com

Jun 04, 202501:21:05
191. Sounds Like Him | With Lori Krueger

191. Sounds Like Him | With Lori Krueger

John is joined by Lori Krueger, a pro soccer chaplain and executive coach, who shares her changed life story. Originally from a small town in Canada, Lori traces how a lifetime of saying "yes" to Jesus gave her ministry platforms in the church, pro soccer, and eventually the USA women's national team.

You can connect with Lori at www.linkedin.com/in/lori-krueger, or https://novus.global/lorikrueger.

To learn more about the Tabernacle, visit us online at: thetabchurch.com

May 28, 202501:29:08
190. There's Something Different Here | With Rachel Ray & Rachel Vore

190. There's Something Different Here | With Rachel Ray & Rachel Vore

On this episode of the podcast, we sit down with Rachels Vore and Ray to unpack why not all retreats are created equal. From hilariously awkward invitations to eye-opening conversations about rest, renewal, and relationships, we explore what really happens when women get outside of the routine and why that should matter to men. This episode goes far beyond gender. It's about truth, authenticity and meeting God on His terms.To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: thetabchurch.com

May 21, 202501:21:24
189. Anchorpoint | With Josh & Laura Boulis

189. Anchorpoint | With Josh & Laura Boulis

John is joined by Josh and Laura Boulis as they share their changed life stories. They talk about pain and disappointment in previous ministry experiences, how God brought them to the Tabernacle staff and how staying grounded with Christ as their foundation allowed them to keep saying 'yes' to God.To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: thetabchurch.com

May 14, 202501:24:00
188. Revolution | Acts Series Overview
May 07, 202501:10:11
187. This Light & Momentary Darkness | Todd Heminger

187. This Light & Momentary Darkness | Todd Heminger

John interviews Todd Heminger about God's faithfulness in the midst of unimaginable loss. Todd's life with his wife and two sons was proceeding according to plan when tragedy struck twice. Todd shares his powerful and inspiring perspective on trusting God in life's darkest moments.


To learn more about the Tabernacle visit us online at: thetabchurch.com

Apr 30, 202501:46:38
186. He's Alive | Proof Of Jesus' Resurrection
Apr 23, 202501:32:22
185. Forgiveness | With Tim, Adam & John
Apr 16, 202501:18:32
184. Help My Marriage Part 3 | With Adam & Rachel Ray

184. Help My Marriage Part 3 | With Adam & Rachel Ray

John is joined by Adam and Rachel Ray as the podcast series on marriage continues. The Rays share stories and lessons learned from their own marriage and a helpful tool called the marriage wheel which gives practical steps directly from the Bible.

Apr 09, 202501:57:33
183. A Child Will Lead Them | With Haley Kroupa
Apr 02, 202501:07:05