The EP Growth Podcast

The EP Growth Podcast

By Ryan McCathie

This is the EP Growth Podcast from Hunter Rehabilitation and Health.
We are here to help grow the Exercise Physiology profession through supporting the personal and professional growth of young EP’s in the industry.
This podcast is run by Exercise Physiologists for Exercise Physiologists.
Hosted by Ryan McCathie and Chris Goward at Hunter Rehabilitation and Health
For CPD Courses - check out EP CPD at epcpd.com/
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Ep. 131 - Pain Science for EPs: What Actually Matters? | ft. Martin Tisdell

The EP Growth PodcastSep 18, 2026
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Ep. 131 - Pain Science for EPs: What Actually Matters? | ft. Martin Tisdell

Ep. 131 - Pain Science for EPs: What Actually Matters? | ft. Martin Tisdell

Pain is something almost every Exercise Physiologist works with; but understanding pain and knowing how to talk about it with patients are two very different things.

In this episode, Chris is joined by Accredited Exercise Physiologist Martin Tisdell, who draws on his experience working in multidisciplinary pain management to explore what modern pain science actually means for EP practice.

Sep 18, 202656:01
Ep. 130 - From New Grad to Experienced Clinician: What Actually Changes?

Ep. 130 - From New Grad to Experienced Clinician: What Actually Changes?

What actually changes as you go from being a new graduate EP to an experienced clinician?

It’s easy to assume the answer is simply more knowledge and more experience. But over time, some of the biggest changes are actually in how you think, make decisions and respond when you don’t have all the answers.

In this episode of the EP Growth Podcast, we explore five shifts that can help you develop from an inexperienced EP into a more confident and capable clinician.

Aug 27, 202626:32
Ep. 129 - How to Progress a Patient Without Overthinking It

Ep. 129 - How to Progress a Patient Without Overthinking It

When should you actually progress an exercise and what should you change when you do?

For early-career EPs, exercise progression can quickly become more complicated than it needs to be. More weight? More reps? A harder exercise? Something completely different?

In this episode, we simplify the decision.


If you sometimes find yourself standing beside a client wondering "what do I progress from here?", this episode is for you.

Aug 21, 202621:15
Ep. 128 - Why Good Advice Doesn't Change Behaviour

Ep. 128 - Why Good Advice Doesn't Change Behaviour

As Exercise Physiologists, we spend a lot of time educating our patients. We explain pain, prescribe exercises and provide evidence-based advice; but what happens when none of it leads to change?

In this episode, I explore one of the biggest lessons I've learnt in clinical practice: knowledge alone rarely changes behaviour.

We'll discuss why clients don't always follow through, the common barriers that sit beneath "non-compliance", and how changing the questions we ask can dramatically improve engagement and long-term outcomes.

Jul 31, 202614:41
Ep. 127 - Why Some Clinicians Build Better Relationships Than Others | ft. Martin Tisdell

Ep. 127 - Why Some Clinicians Build Better Relationships Than Others | ft. Martin Tisdell

Technical skills might earn you your degree, but they're only part of what makes a great Exercise Physiologist.

In this episode, I'm joined by Accredited Exercise Physiologist and Partnerships & Engagement Manager, Martin Tisdell, to explore the communication, relationship and professional skills that university doesn't always prepare us for.

Over the past few episodes, we've discussed building rapport, communication and client buy-in. In this conversation, we take that one step further and explore how those same skills extend beyond the treatment room to colleagues, GPs, employers, insurers and every other stakeholder involved in a client's care.

Jul 15, 202642:40
Ep. 126 - Why Motivation Isn't Your Client's Problem

Ep. 126 - Why Motivation Isn't Your Client's Problem

Most clients aren't unmotivated; they're misunderstood.

In this episode, we explore why clients don't follow through with exercise programs and how EPs can create genuine buy-in instead of relying on motivation alone.

Jun 10, 202621:31
Ep. 125 - How to Build Rapport in Under 2 Minutes

Ep. 125 - How to Build Rapport in Under 2 Minutes

Most EPs think rapport takes time but the best clinicians build it in the first few minutes.

In this episode, we break down simple communication strategies you can use immediately to build stronger relationships with your clients, improve trust, and create better engagement in sessions.

We discuss:

  • Why rapport matters more than most EPs realise
  • The biggest communication mistakes clinicians make
  • How to ask better questions
  • Simple ways to make clients feel understood
  • What high-performing clinicians do differently

If you’ve ever felt awkward, rushed, or unsure what to say in sessions, this episode will give you practical tools you can start using immediately.

May 26, 202618:45
Ep. 124 - What to Do When a Client Says “I’m Not Improving”

Ep. 124 - What to Do When a Client Says “I’m Not Improving”

One of the toughest moments as an EP is when a patient says, I’m not improving.

It can quickly shake your confidence and if handled poorly, it can cost you the patient.

In this episode, we break down a simple, practical approach to handling these conversations. You’ll learn how to respond without becoming defensive, how to better understand what the patient is actually saying, and how to adjust your plan to rebuild trust and momentum.

If you’ve ever felt unsure in this situation, this episode will give you a clear way forward.

Apr 29, 202614:26
Ep. 123 - How to Run the Perfect Initial Consult (Step-by-Step)

Ep. 123 - How to Run the Perfect Initial Consult (Step-by-Step)

Struggling to get clients to commit after the initial consult?

In this episode, we break down the key mistakes EPs make and walk through a simple framework to run a consult that builds trust, creates clarity, and leads to better outcomes.

Apr 17, 202622:11
Ep. 122 - The First 5 Minutes of Every Session (What to Say as an EP)

Ep. 122 - The First 5 Minutes of Every Session (What to Say as an EP)

Most exercise physiologists focus heavily on programming but often overlook the most important part of the session:

👉 The first 5 minutes.

In this episode, we break down a simple, repeatable structure you can use at the start of every session to improve engagement, retention, and outcomes.

Mar 31, 202610:03
Ep. 121 - Joe Smith - Clinic culture and wellbeing
Feb 03, 202621:47
Ep. 120 - What is the Primary Health Network?

Ep. 120 - What is the Primary Health Network?

In this episode, we break down what a Primary Health Network (PHN) is, why it exists, and the role it plays in shaping healthcare delivery across Australia. Whether you’re a clinician, practice owner, or simply curious about how healthcare systems connect, this episode provides a clear and practical overview.

In this episode, we cover:

  • What a Primary Health Network is and why it was created

  • The role PHNs play in supporting primary care and community health

  • How PHNs work with GPs, allied health, hospitals, and community services

  • Funding, commissioning, and how services are prioritised

  • How healthcare providers can engage with and benefit from their local PHN

A great listen for anyone wanting to better understand the system behind primary healthcare and how to work more effectively within it.


Jan 27, 202609:10
Ep. 119 - Organise 2026 with these 3 questions!!

Ep. 119 - Organise 2026 with these 3 questions!!

Get organised and prepared for 2026 with these 3 simple questions!

Jan 16, 202612:37
Ep. 118 - The new grad EP checklist!

Ep. 118 - The new grad EP checklist!

As a new grad it can be quite daunting and overwhelming when you first encounter all the registrations, certifications and insurances you may need on your first day as an EP.

In this episode Chris brakes down some of the fundamental requirements and things to be aware for new grad EP's to help you ensure you thrive from day 1.

Dec 12, 202521:28
Ep. 117 - Amber Holland- Making the jump from student to EP.

Ep. 117 - Amber Holland- Making the jump from student to EP.

Join this episode as Hunter Rehabs very own Amber Holland shares her story on how she went from student to flourishing EP. Tune in for some tips that may just make this process easier for you or someone you know.

Nov 21, 202540:19
Ep. 116 - Report Writing Done Right: Navigating WorkCover Requirements for EPs

Ep. 116 - Report Writing Done Right: Navigating WorkCover Requirements for EPs

In this episode, we break down everything exercise physiologists need to know about writing effective WorkCover reports in NSW. From insurer expectations and reportable content to fees, timelines, and best-practice communication, we unpack how to create reports that are clear, compliant, and genuinely helpful for all stakeholders. Perfect for early-career EPs looking to lift their WorkCover game and write with confidence.


Nov 05, 202523:18
Ep. 115 - Navigating the WorkCover Approval Process: Rules, Time Frames, and Tips
Oct 23, 202526:11
Ep. 114 - What all providers should know about Workers Comp with Kirra Benedetti

Ep. 114 - What all providers should know about Workers Comp with Kirra Benedetti

Featuring Kirra Benedetti, Independent Workers’ Compensation Consultant

In this episode, we welcome Kira Benedetti, a seasoned workers’ compensation expert with over fourteen years’ experience navigating this complex system. Kirra began her career as a case manager, gaining hands-on experience in the trenches of claim workflows, and gradually moved into roles within insurance organisations.

Throughout our conversation, Kirra pulls back the curtain on what really matters for providers working in the workers’ compensation space. She explains how insurers evaluate cases, how case managers triage and manage complex claims, and what red flags providers should be aware of from day one.

Here are just a few of the golden tips Kira shares in the episode:

  • Think like a case manager and insurer simultaneously. By anticipating what questions will ultimately be asked—by insurers, adjusters, or auditors—providers can frame their notes and plans more defensibly.

  • Stay proactive with communication. Don’t wait for the insurer to ask—offer updates, communicate barriers early, and flag when progress isn’t happening.

  • Leverage the “win-win” mindset. Kira encourages providers to frame recommendations in terms of both patient benefit and cost effectiveness—because the insurer needs both sides of the story.

Whether you're a treating clinician, rehab provider, or simply someone working with injured workers, this episode offers practical, field-tested advice to help you stay ahead of pitfalls and build stronger, more defensible claims. Give it a listen—you’ll find takeaways you can apply immediately.


Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirra-benedetti-7587b21ba/



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Oct 14, 202531:23
Ep. 113 - Beyond the Black Flag: Overcoming Obstacles to Recovery

Ep. 113 - Beyond the Black Flag: Overcoming Obstacles to Recovery

Our final episode looking at flags in healthcare. This episode unpacks black flags and what we can about them as exercise physiologists.

Sep 10, 202525:26
Ep. 112 - Blue Flags: When Work Beliefs Block Recovery
Aug 20, 202526:29
Ep. 111 - Clinic1 - Australia's NEWEST AI Practice Software

Ep. 111 - Clinic1 - Australia's NEWEST AI Practice Software

In this episode of the EP Growth Podcast, I sit down with Elliot Dobie the visionary behind Clinic1, a practice management software that’s changing the way allied health clinics operate. We dive into the story behind Clinic1’s creation, the challenges of building innovative solutions for health professionals, and how technology can streamline clinic management, improve patient outcomes, and boost business growth.

Whether you’re running a solo practice or leading a large allied health team, you’ll walk away with practical insights and strategies to help your clinic thrive in an increasingly competitive landscape.


Website: https://clinic1.ai/

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Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/clinic1ai/

Jul 30, 202541:15
Ep. 110 - It's not all physical- Why yellow flags matter in rehab.

Ep. 110 - It's not all physical- Why yellow flags matter in rehab.

Join Chris as he unpacks yellow flags in the rehabilitation process.

Jul 27, 202517:38
Ep. 109 -When to Pause: A Red Flag Deep Dive for EPs

Ep. 109 -When to Pause: A Red Flag Deep Dive for EPs

Continue on with Chris in this series as he discusses the flag system in healthcare. This week we take a look at Red Flags.

Jul 21, 202518:29
Ep. 108 - Don’t Miss the Signs: The Flag Framework Explained

Ep. 108 - Don’t Miss the Signs: The Flag Framework Explained

Join Chris as he discusses the coloured flag system used to identify psychosocial and physical risk factors in patient care.

As a healthcare provider, this is one you need to be across!


Jul 09, 202513:08
Ep. 107 - Defining Value in WorkCover: What Every EP Needs to Know

Ep. 107 - Defining Value in WorkCover: What Every EP Needs to Know

Join Chris for a chat about WorkCover and where you can add value for the various stakeholders in this system. If you feel like you get good results for your patient but aren't generating repeat referrals- you need to listen to this.

Jun 26, 202534:36
Ep. 106 - Shouldering the Load: EPs Talk Neck & Shoulder Rehab

Ep. 106 - Shouldering the Load: EPs Talk Neck & Shoulder Rehab

Catch up with Ryan and Chris as they sit down and talk about neck and shoulder injuries, their rehabilitation and considerations as an EP.

Jun 04, 202545:51
Ep. 105 - Key steps to maximise CPD courses
May 13, 202518:37
Ep. 104 - All Health Professionals MUST stop doing this!

Ep. 104 - All Health Professionals MUST stop doing this!

This episode is brought to you by Clinic1


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In today’s episode, we tackle a silent issue that’s affecting both patient outcomes and clinic performance—health professionals assuming their patients’ financial situation. Whether it’s skipping a rebooking, under-delivering a treatment plan, or holding back out of discomfort, these assumptions are doing more harm than good.
We break down:

  • Why making financial assumptions is a disservice to your patients
  • How these habits hurt your clinical outcomes and your business
  • What to say instead to give patients full agency over their health
  • Practical scripts and mindset shifts you can implement today

If you’ve ever found yourself hesitating to recommend the “gold standard” of care—this one’s for you.

May 01, 202514:28
Ep. 103 - Predictions for the biggest EP trends of 2025
Apr 16, 202532:22
Ep. 102 - The Inquisitive EP: How Curiosity Enhances Patient Outcomes
Jan 31, 202519:26
Ep. 101 - 3 things to factor into your goals that AREN'T exercise!
Jan 22, 202517:35
Ep. 100 - AHTR vs AHRR

Ep. 100 - AHTR vs AHRR

Join us for this episode where Chris chats about the new AHTR and raises some pro's and cons when comparing it with the older AHRR.

Dec 23, 202414:56
Ep. 99 - Female EP Leaders - Sara Woodroffe

Ep. 99 - Female EP Leaders - Sara Woodroffe

In this episode Ryan sits down with Director of Simply Stronger Exercise Physiology - Sara Woodroffe for a discussion of her journey to date and the challenges she has faced in the industry.


Tune in to this one to hear some great insights and nuggets of gold that you will all use!


Find Sara on Linkedin here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-woodroffe-1aa18077/?originalSubdomain=au


Email - sara@simplystronger.com.au

Nov 25, 202441:17
Ep. 98 - 3 tips to disagree without fighting.
Nov 04, 202407:08
Ep. 97 - Anita Hobson-Powell (Chief Allied Health Officer)

Ep. 97 - Anita Hobson-Powell (Chief Allied Health Officer)

In this episode, Ryan interviews special guest former ESSA CEO of 17 years and now Chief Allied Health Officer of Australia, Anita Hobson Powell


In this episode, Anita shares her fascinating career journey, leadership advice and her vision for EP's and allied health in the future!


Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anita-hobson-powell-caho-b79160333/


Email - caho@health.gov.au

Oct 30, 202436:06
Ep. 96 - 5 practical tips to eliminate decision fatigue.
Oct 27, 202413:02
Ep. 95 - Essential steps you can implement to create clear boundaries.

Ep. 95 - Essential steps you can implement to create clear boundaries.

Patients consistently late to your sessions?

Your calendar keeps getting changed without notice?

Are you unhappy with how you are generally spoken to?


It could be that you need to work on your boundaries and how you communicate them.

Check out today's episode as Chris runs through all things boundaries and how you can use them to improve your own quality of life.

Oct 20, 202415:41
Ep. 94 - You MUST ask these TWO questions in your next consultation

Ep. 94 - You MUST ask these TWO questions in your next consultation

In this episode,


Ryan is back on deck for this solo episode on motivational interviewing


Ryan discusses the two key questions that can significantly increase your chances of facilitating long term behaviour change


Online Course Link - 0-100 How to get more GP referrals - https://epgrowthmentoring.freshlearn.com/more-gp-referrals

Sep 27, 202413:36
Ep. 93 - Accountability- Why it's lacking and what YOU can do about it!
Sep 22, 202426:46
Ep. 92 - 7 questions to level up your coaching!
Sep 15, 202415:36
Ep. 91 - 4 ways to break down the barriers in writing great notes.
Sep 09, 202410:04
Ep. 90 - 4 essentials for your Workcover reports!
Sep 02, 202411:07
Ep. 89 - Level up your session notes with these 4 critical points.
Aug 29, 202416:24
Ep. 88 - Dan Parsons
Aug 15, 202432:32
Ep. 87 - Danny Miller - Becoming Australia's #1 Exercise Physiology advocate

Ep. 87 - Danny Miller - Becoming Australia's #1 Exercise Physiology advocate

In this episode Ryan is joined by fellow Exercise Physiologist Danny Miller to tell her story and share some exciting updates about Exercise Physiology!


Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-miller-942a7010b/


Join the Hunter Rehab and Health Team - https://www.hunterrehab.com.au/join-our-team/

Jul 27, 202428:57
Ep. 86 - Current news and research

Ep. 86 - Current news and research

A different style of podcast today as we take a look at some current news topics from ESSA as well as current CPD options of interest.

Enjoy.

Jul 24, 202414:02
Ep. 85 - What is VALUE based healthcare??
Jul 15, 202413:56
Ep. 84 - Is your language impacting patient outcomes?
Jul 09, 202413:33
Ep. 83 - 8 ways to be confident in patient centered care.
Jul 04, 202420:45
Ep. 82 - Working with Prosthetics - with Paul Nixon from APC Prosthetics
Jun 30, 202425:37