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The Executive/EA Partnership Unpacked - Part Two
The first conversation with Westbourne Grammar EA Danni Archer changed how a lot of people think about the Executive Assistant role. This one gets into the mechanics of how her partnership with the principal operates day to day.
In this episode of The Principal's Perspective, Dr Adrian Camm and Danni move past the big ideas and into the specifics - inbox systems, calendar politics, communication drafting, interpersonal tension, and the emotional labour that comes with a role at the centre of a complex organisation.
This episode covers:
• The principal's sent folder as a source of intel
• The art of saying no without saying no
• Writing in someone else's voice
• Putting on your armour - what the hard days look like
• When you disagree with the decision, and back it anyway
Part one asked whether you were underutilising your EA and this episode shows you just how valuable the partnership can be - when you get it right.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Danielle Archer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannielle-archer-99205255/
Show notes:
What Got You Here Won't Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith

The Relationships Behind the Numbers
What does it really look like when the principal and director of business get their relationship right? In this episode, Dr Adrian Camm and Nicole Lockwood, Director of Business at Westbourne Grammar School, go behind the scenes on one of school leadership's most important, and underexplored, partnerships.
Nicole shares the reality of a portfolio that spans finance, ICT, capital works, property, risk, compliance, and board governance, and explains why physical proximity to the principal's office was a non-negotiable before she signed her contract. She and Dr Camm also unpack the financial complexity behind Westbourne's greenfield campus development, the difference between governance and management reporting, and what aspiring principals should be doing in their very first conversations with a director of business.
Practical, and full of insight - this is the episode for any leader who wants to understand the partnership that influences how a school runs.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Nicole Lockwood: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-lockwood-6154ba97/

The Executive Assistant Your Secret Weapon
What if your Executive Assistant was also your chief of staff, your communications lead, your culture guardian, and your coaching partner?
In this episode, Dr Adrian Camm and his EA Danni Archer explore the rapidly evolving world of the executive assistant role in schools. Drawing on Danni's experience across corporate giants like Australia Post and Cotton On, they unpack the partnership they've built at Westbourne - the trust, the tension, the watershed moments, and the professional growth that has redefined what an EA can be. From inbox access to imposter syndrome, from coaching qualifications to an MBA at Melbourne Business School, this conversation goes well beyond the job description.
Topics covered include:
• From secretary to executive partnership.
• Letting your EA in.
• The challenges of shifting culture.
• Why initiative is everything.
This episode reveals what high-performance executive support really looks like and how the right EA can help unlock the full potential of an executive team.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Danielle Archer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannielle-archer-99205255/

The Secret Society of Motherhood
What does it really cost to have it all?
This week on The Principal's Perspective, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins sit down for one of their most personal and candid conversations yet - exploring the reality of women in school leadership who are also navigating motherhood, identity, and the weight of modern expectations.
With Teagan weeks away from her second maternity leave, this episode draws on lived experience to surface the tensions that rarely make it into leadership discussions.
Highlights:
• Redefining ambition and why it’s okay to choose family and career
• The invisible cognitive and emotional load that returns to work with you
• Why systemic flexibility needs to be real
• The guilt that exists even in the most privileged and supported circumstances
• Capability versus capacity
• What school leaders and principals can practically do to better support returning parents
This is a conversation for women who lead, women who are about to leave, and the leaders who want to get it right when they come back.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/

The Currency of Leadership
What's the real cost of that decision?
This week on The Principal's Perspective, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins explore leadership capital - the invisible resource that underpins every decision a school leader makes, from their first 90 days to navigating crisis and establishing long-term community trust.
Drawing on their own shared leadership experience, Adrian and Teagan talk through real moments where capital was spent too soon, feedback that didn't land because the relationship wasn't there yet, and how decision sequencing supports strategy.
Highlights:
• Building leadership capital deliberately and strategically from day one
• Understanding the true cost of structural, personnel and culture decisions before you make them
• The sequencing framework - how to identify quick wins, protect your reserves, and time your big calls
• What happens when a leader gets it wrong, and the practical steps to recover
• Why authentic responsiveness, not stubbornness, is the mark of a credible leader
• The role of community, board relationships, and visibility in sustaining your capital long term
This is a conversation for principals and senior leaders who want to lead with greater intention and spend their influence wisely.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Show Notes
Books & resources referenced in this episode:
• The Right Hand: Conversations with the Chiefs of Staff to the World's Most Powerful People - Phoebe Saintilan-Stocks
• Harvard Business Review: Leadership That Gets Results - Daniel Goleman
• The First 90 Days - Michael D. Watkins
• Outline of a Theory of Practice - Pierre Bourdieu

Superstars and High Achievers
Is hiring stars a smart strategy - or risky business?
In this episode of The Principal’s Perspective, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins explore the hidden trade-offs that come with appointing high achievers. They discuss why high performance isn’t always the same as high impact and how to identify red flags in recruitment. This is a practical episode with tips for leaders around what to do once a high achiever is in the role to ensure they strengthen, not strain the team.
They explore:
• Why some high achievers thrive only in certain systems and contexts.
• How ambition can show up as entitlement and impatience.
• What to listen for in interviews to separate confidence from capability.
• How to set up the guardrails - direction, clear expectations, and coaching structures to support success.
• Why the best staffing profiles are built on balance and not a team of “A listers” only.
A thoughtful conversation for leaders building culture through every recruitment decision.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Show Notes:
The Risky Business of Hiring Stars

Is your EVP driving culture?
Are your workplace promises attracting the staff you need?
This week on The Principal’s Perspective, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins move beyond the recruitment crisis to discuss the Employee Value Proposition (EVP) and how structural choices like significant workload reduction and professional autonomy create a culture where teachers can thrive.
Highlights:
• EVP fundamentals and why articulating your proposition matters
• Westbourne’s approach to workload and autonomy
• Shifting professional learning inward to amplify staff expertise
• Using onsite resources to create time and support wellbeing
This practical conversation is for principals and senior leaders who want to develop a workplace that people choose and want to stay.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Show Notes:

From Drain to Gain – Making Meetings Work
Are your meetings driving progress - or just filling calendars?
In this episode of The Principal’s Perspective, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins examine meetings not just as calendar events, but as powerful signals of school culture and leadership practice.
They share the structure of executive meetings at Westbourne and reflect more broadly on meetings that don’t work and how leaders can redesign them with greater purpose.
This fast-paced conversation also covers how to make one-on-one meetings more valuable, and the trade-offs leaders need to consider when creating time efficiencies.
They explore:
- The risk of senior teams getting stuck in the wrong level of discussion.
- Why leaders need clarity about where decisions should be made.
- The tension between efficiency and making people feel seen, heard, and valued.
- How meeting habits across an organisation can either strengthen or weaken culture.
- It' a thoughtful and highly practical episode for school leaders wanting to improve how time gets spent.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins:https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/

Banning or Band-aid
In this year’s premiere of The Principal’s Perspective, Dr. Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins enter the high-stakes topic of technology bans. With new legislation targeting mobile phones, smartwatches, and social media, they discuss the operational reality and teacher burden and the way teens bypass restrictions. It’s a provocative conversation about moving from prohibition to preparation.
You’ll learn:
- How history is littered with examples of how fear drives panic
- The impact on isolated young people when their social pathways are restricted
- The administrative reality of schools becoming the enforcers
- How young people are bypassing the bans and going underground
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins:https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Show Notes:
Rethinking Education in the Age of Technology: The Digital Revolution and Schooling in America – Allan Collins & Richard Halverson

Candid with Your Toughest Questions
A principal interview panel, emotional labour you can’t rehearse for, staff who feel powerless, and AI that’s changing how leaders work. In this year’s final episode, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins take on your toughest questions.
Join in as they:
- Go deeper into principal interview technique, the questions that really distinguish candidates, and how to respond with authenticity rather than polished jargon.
- Explore what can and can’t be taught about the emotional and political labour of principalship – and how aspiring leaders can still prepare.
- Break down daily practices, wellbeing routines and calendar design that help leaders stay effective, visible and human.
- Discuss how Adrian is using AI in his role as principal – from analysis of complex information to a new, more personalised school website – and where he draws the line on AI‑generated comms.
Adrian and Teagan close out 2025 with a conversation that is both thought-provoking and immediately useful, helping you refine your leadership approach and prepare for the challenges and opportunities ahead.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins:https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Show Notes:
Brené Brown – Strong Ground
Julia Baird – Bright Shining and Phosphorescence
Patrick Lencioni – The Ideal Team Player
Viktor E. Frankl – Man’s Search for Meaning
Jane Wilkinson – Practice Matters in Educational Leadership1

When Tradition Meets Innovation | A change management case study
How do schools reimagine long held traditions for modern contexts? Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins share the story of Westbourne Grammar’s shift from chapel and chaplaincy to a philosophy led program called Echoes and Dialogues.
They reveal the tension, stakeholder engagement, and data informed reflection behind this change, and how leadership humility and philosophical dialogue create belonging and critical thinking.
You’ll learn:
- How to evaluate which traditions still serve your purpose.
- How to involve staff, students, and families in change.
- Why decoupling religion from wellbeing can open space reflection.
- How philosophy builds ethical, articulate future leaders.
A thought-provoking case study in courageously leading reform while protecting community identity.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins:https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Show Notes:
Carl Jung – Modern Man in Search of a Soul
Michael Polanyi – The Tacit Dimension

Systems Thinking Principalship
From purpose to performance through systems thinking.
Everything in a school is connected. Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins unpack a five-linkage model: Purpose → Strategy → Capabilities → Organisational Design → Management Systems and show how leaders can create coherence.
Hear how misalignment shows up (trust, retention, clarity), what to prioritise because you can’t do it all, and how to use reverse-engineering questions and simple two-by-two prioritisation to sequence change. They share examples for talent management, leadership capability frameworks, coaching, student leadership redesign, and radical transparency.
You’ll learn:
- How to define ‘winning’ for your context and choose what not to do
- How to spot and fix capability gaps that block strategic delivery
- How to decentralise decisions without losing alignment
- How to communicate openly because radical transparency builds trust
What is one thing you will realign to strengthen thelinkages and remove friction from your structure?
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins:https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Show Notes:
- Jonathan Trevor - Align: A Leadership Blueprint for Aligning Purpose, Strategy, and Organization
- A.G. Lafley and Roger L. Martin – Playing to Win: How Strategy Really Works
- L. David Marquet – Turn the Ship Around! A True Story of Turning Followers into Leaders
- Marshall Goldsmith – What Got You Here Won’t Get You There
- AHISA - Association of Heads ofIndependent Schools of Australia | Home

Cyber Incidents in Schools - It’s not if, it’s when!
A cyber attack happens every six minutes – is your school prepared?
Recent major data breaches underscore a familiar pattern: human‑layer compromise, rapid escalation, complex comms and governance decisions. In this episode, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins reveal how real the risk is and go inside a school’s worst IT day.
They look at what a critical cybersecurity incident means for schools and map the decisions leaders must make. The episode covers ransomware, threat actor negotiations, legal and insurance pathways, data breach notifications, and recovery.
Learn about practical breach response tactics and strengthening your posture following an attack with penetration testing, frameworks, and managed detection and response support.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/

The Hidden Curriculum of Leadership
Join this episode as we reveal the hidden curriculum ofleadership - the emotional labour, politics, and identity work no one prepares you for. Hear how Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins sustain resilience, build trust, and gain influence. Tune in for ‘In the Trenches’, where they share the hardest leadership lessons they have learned - making tough calls with empathy, not taking things personally, and trusting intuition.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Show notes:

Pathway to Principalship - Time to Step Up?
What does it take to become a principal - and when do you know you’re ready? Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins break down real pathways to principalship, how to build breadth in skills and experience, and how to prepare applications and interviews that land while staying authentic.
Tune in for practical steps, honest insights, and a nudge to take the next step.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/

AI in the Principal’s Office
Dr. Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins explore how AI is transforming schools today and shaping tomorrow’s leaders. From AI avatars to ethical frameworks, discover how technology is amplifying human intelligence and reshaping education.
Main Themes in Episode 9
- AI is not replacing us –it’s amplifying us.
- How AI avatars are personalising communication and extending leadership.
- From plagiarism fears to cultivating sophisticated learners with AI.
- Why ethical frameworks and policies are critical in the AI era.
Get curious about AI and the future of education technology and listen to this episode!
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Link to 7.30 report ABC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nM1faDNcro
Link to the 2025 Australian Education Awards Article here.

Courageous Leadership – Making Tough Calls and Leading Through Crisis
Leadership is tested in moments of uncertainty and tough decisions. In this episode of The Principal’s Perspective, Dr. Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins explore what it takes to lead with clarity during a crisis.
From risk mitigation strategies to managing media and shaping a culture of resilience, they share insights, lived experiences, and actionable tactics for school leaders.
Are you ready to lead when it matters most? Tune in for tools to act with integrity and calm under pressure.
Have a topic you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Send your suggestions to marketing@westbourne.vic.edu.au.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/

You Asked, We Answered: Leadership Unpacked
This week on the Principal’s Perspective, we’re dedicating 38 minutes to answering your questions! From trust-building to crisis management, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins provide deeper insight into the issues every leader faces.
Key Takeaways:
- The importance of intentional visibility in leadership.
- Strategies for building trust and collaboration in teams.
- Balancing tradition and innovation in a growing school community.
- Real-world examples of distributed leadership in action during a crisis.
Tune in now for a focused, insightful conversation that drills into deeper layers of strategy and practice.
Have a topic you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Send your suggestions to marketing@westbourne.vic.edu.au.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
References in the episode:
Book - Opening Your Presence – Presenting the you that you want others to see by Greta Mueller
Proverb – ‘The Wise Old Owl’
"A wise old owl sat on an oak; The more he saw, the less he spoke; The less he spoke, the more he heard"
Teagan Collins’ TEDx Talk: https://youtu.be/0KByQSN9zqM?si=M5RluwJrLZkbOEUd
The Leadership Principles: https://online.fliphtml5.com/wdhpg/afiq/

Conversations That Matter
This week on The Principal's Perspective, Dr. Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins explore conversations that matter—those pivotal moments that shape relationships, inspire change, and set the course for meaningful work. They share personal stories, practical advice, and tools to navigate tough discussions with curiosity and confidence, while celebrating the power of positive interactions that build trust and connection.
Episode 6 highlights:
- How genuine listening and curiosity can transform conversations.
- Practical tools like the Growth Framework for confident discussions.
- Pivotal moments that shaped Adrian and Teagan’s leadership journeys.
Tune in for insights and inspiration to help you lean into conversations that shape lives and drive change!
Have a topic you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Send your suggestions to marketing@westbourne.vic.edu.au.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Book referenced:
Now We’re Talking – How to discuss what really matters by Sarah Rozenthuler

Mobilising People
In this episode, we take a deep dive into what it truly means to mobilise people, unlock potential, empower teams, and create a culture of trust and accountability. Dr. Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins share their experiences and strategies for building high-performing teams, supporting leadership development at every level, and ensuring that talent gets noticed.
From the real impact of distributed leadership to the importance of clarity and brevity, this conversation explores why vulnerability is a strength, sharing personal insights and lived experiences.
Tune in to hear about:
- The systems and structures that elevate individuals and propel teams to excellence
- The role of trust, feedback, and clarity in supporting high-functioning teams.
- Why seizing opportunities and doing the work is essential for personal and professional growth.
People are not just part of what we do in schools – they are what we do. Join us as we unpack the ‘why and how’ of investing in individuals and mobilising leadership for extraordinary outcomes.
Have a topic you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Send your suggestions to marketing@westbourne.vic.edu.au.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/
Books referenced in this episode:
- Shatterproof: How to Thrive in a World of Constant Chaos by Tasha Eurich
- Thanks for the Feedback by Douglas Stone and Sheila Heen
- Humilitas by John Dickson
- The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni
- Dare 2 Lead by Brené Brown

Money Matters
In this episode of the Principal's Perspective, we dive into the sometimes overlooked but critical topic of school finances. Join us and explore the challenges of balancing educational priorities with financial sustainability, the tough decisions leaders face, and the strategies that keep schools thriving.
From maintaining world-class facilities and managing staff conditions to navigating government funding changes and exploring innovative revenue streams, this conversation puts a lens on what it really takes to lead a school in today’s complex landscape.
You might be a school leader, or just curious about thebusiness side of education but either way you will find plenty of insights, personal stories, and thought-provoking discussions in this episode.
Tune in to learn:
- The tension between educational ideals andfinancial constraints
- How leaders make tough calls on class sizes,staff workloads, and budgets
- Innovative ways schools are generating revenuewithout compromising their vision
Don’t miss this candid conversation about why moneymatters in education.
Have a topic you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Send your suggestions to marketing@westbourne.vic.edu.au.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/

Strategy Leads the Way
What does it really take to align a school around a powerful vision? In this episode of The Principal's Perspective, Dr. Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins explore how visionary leadership shapes a school's direction, starting with mission, vision, and values, moving through strategy development and resource allocation.
From shaping learners who inspire the world to building a culture of distributed leadership and lived values, this episode dives into the real work of school transformation.
🎧 Tune in to learn:
- Why a clear vision matters
- The importance of building and implementing a strategy
- Decision-making frameworks that help assess the impact and feasibility of new opportunities
Have a topic you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Send your suggestions to marketing@westbourne.vic.edu.au.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins - https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/

Do What Only You Can Do
What should principals really be spending their time on?
In this episode of The Principal’s Perspective, Dr Adrian Camm and Teagan Collins explore the power of purposeful leadership and why protecting your time and energy is essential to making an impact.
They share practical strategies for:
- Avoiding distraction and staying focused on your core purpose
- Identifying what to delegate and how to build the right support team
- Leading with authenticity while adapting to your school's evolving needs
Adrian and Teagan also reflect on how leadership style influences school culture and why vulnerability can be a leadership strength.
Whether you're a current or aspiring principal, this conversation will help you refocus on the work only you can do.
Have a topic you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Send your suggestions to marketing@westbourne.vic.edu.au.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
- Dr Adrian Camm - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
- Teagan Collins - https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/

So, You Want to Be a Principal?
Leading Through Change – and Coming Back to It
What does it take to lead – and to return to leadership with confidence after stepping away?
In the first episode of The Principal’s Perspective, Westbourne Grammar Principal Dr Adrian Camm and Associate Principal Teagan Collins reflect on the ongoing tensions and competing priorities of Principalship – from the need to be visible and accessible, to the demands of strategic leadership – and how they navigate these complexities in their day-to-day roles.
Together, they unpack the lessons learned through lived experience – from navigating change and growth to finding clarity in the messiness of real life.
🎧 What you'll hear in this episode:
• A defining moment that has shaped how Adrian thinks about work life balance for leaders
• Teagan’s candid insight into the transition back to work and identity
• How leaders can make space to focus on what only they can do
Have a topic you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Send your suggestions to marketing@westbourne.vic.edu.au.
Want to learn more about our hosts? Connect with them on LinkedIn:
Adrian Camm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriancamm/
Teagan Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teagan-collins-45699811a/