
Scrolling 2 Death
By Nicki Petrossi


Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition (Part 4)
What can parents actually do when their child's school is using too much technology?
In the final episode of our Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition back-to-school series, I'm joined by Emily Cherkin, The Screentime Consultant, a former middle school teacher, parent, author, and longtime advocate for healthier technology use in schools.
Using questions submitted by parents, we tackle some of the biggest challenges families are facing: excessive screen time, school-issued laptops, i-Ready and other EdTech platforms, YouTube access, AI embedded in school devices, opting out, student privacy, and what to do when a school simply says no.
Emily offers practical advice for parents who want to push back without making teachers' jobs harder—and challenges us to rethink the way we approach school technology.
Instead of asking schools, "Can I opt out?", she suggests a different approach:
"I decline this technology until you can show me that it is effective, safe, legal, and better than teacher-led instruction—and that the evidence is independent, verifiable, and replicable."
We also talk about why hearing "no" from your school doesn't have to be the end of the conversation, how parents can organize with other families, when to take concerns to the school board, and why incremental change matters.
And Emily makes an important distinction: she isn't anti-technology. She's pro–technology education, not educational technology. Children need to learn how technology works, how to think critically about it, and how to use it responsibly—but that doesn't mean they need unrestricted access to technology throughout their childhood.
As Emily puts it, "The best preparation for a digital future is an analog childhood."
If you've been wondering how to protect your child's childhood and education in an increasingly digital school environment, this episode is for you.
Emily's Substack: First Fish Chronicles
Emily's Unplug EdTech Toolkitl
How to Vet Screentime Research: A 7-Step Checklist from Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath
Substack: What a Recent FTC Amicus Brief Means for EdTech
How to Vet Screentime Research: A 7-Step Checklist from Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath
The Reckoning-- essay about Alpha
Get your copy of The Digital Delusion by Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath here.
7 Ways to Advocate for a Tech-Safe School Year (A Parent Action Guide)
You can find dozens of parent templates for school tech advocacy at Tech-Safe Learning.
This is the final episode of our four-part Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, where we've brought your biggest back-to-school questions to leading experts in neuroscience, education, online safety, and child development.
This special series is made possible through a generous donation from Buckets Over Bullying, a nonprofit organization committed to eliminating cyberbullying among children and teens. For additional resources, parent guides, and tools to help you advocate for healthier technology in schools, visit techsafelearning.org.

Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition (Part 3)
Part 3 with Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath
Is classroom technology actually helping children learn—or have we accepted a massive educational experiment without the evidence to support it?
In Part 3 of our Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, I'm joined by neuroscientist Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath to examine what decades of brain science actually tell us about screens, AI, and learning.
Using questions submitted by parents, we tackle some of the biggest debates in education today: Are devices improving student outcomes? How much classroom screen time is too much? Does AI help students learn—or replace critical thinking? And what is all this technology doing to children's attention, memory, reading comprehension, and developing brains?
We also discuss Dr. Cooney-Horvath's groundbreaking review of i-Ready, one of the most widely used EdTech platforms in the United States, and why he believes parents and schools should demand stronger evidence before adopting products that shape millions of children's education.
If you've ever been told that "kids need technology because it's the future," this conversation will challenge assumptions, unpack the research, and give you the science you need to make informed decisions for your family.
This episode is part of our four-part Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, where we're bringing your biggest back-to-school questions to leading experts in neuroscience, education, online safety, and child development.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
Get your copy of The Digital Delusion by Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath here.
Jared's Substack: Why AI schools can't tell us why AI works
Schools Beyond Screens - Parent Teacher Coalition
You can find dozens of parent templates for school tech advocacy at Tech-Safe Learning.
A special thank you to Buckets Over Bullying who provided a generous donation in support of this mini-series.

Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition (Part 2)
Part 2: Chris McKenna of Protect Young Eyes
Can your child access YouTube, AI chatbots, or the open internet on their school-issued device? And if so, who is responsible for keeping them safe?
In Part 2 of our Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, I'm joined by Chris McKenna, founder of Protect Young Eyes and one of the nation's leading experts on digital safety for children.
Using questions submitted by parents, we tackle the biggest concerns families have about school technology, including student privacy, AI, YouTube access, Google Classroom, Minecraft for Education and what children can actually access during the school day.
Chris explains what schools are doing well, where the biggest risks still exist, and—most importantly—what parents can do to better protect their children. We also discuss whether parents can opt out of certain technologies, what rights families have when it comes to student data, and the practical questions every parent should ask before signing a school technology agreement.
If you've ever wondered whether your child's school device is as safe as you think it is, this episode will leave you better informed and better prepared for the school year ahead.
This episode is part of our four-part Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, where we're bringing your biggest back-to-school questions to leading experts in neuroscience, education, online safety, and child development.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
6 Tech Questions to Ask Your Principal
The Ultimate Guide to Understanding Routers
My interview with Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath about i-Ready
Bark for Schools - Free monitoring for school-issued devices!
You can find dozens of parent templates for school tech advocacy at Tech-Safe Learning.
A special thank you to Buckets Over Bullying who provided a generous donation in support of this mini-series.

Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition (Part 1)
Part 1 with superintendent Dr. Greg Taranto
Schools were promised that more technology would improve education. But did it?
In this episode of Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition, Superintendent Dr. Greg Taranto shares why his district made the bold decision to eliminate screens in K–2 classrooms, reduce technology use across all grade levels, and move away from EdTech platforms like IXL in favor of teacher-led instruction.
Together, we tackle questions from parents:
- Why his district decided to reverse course on classroom technology
- Whether AI belongs in schools—and why he says no
- How parents can advocate for less screen time without making teachers' jobs harder
- Whether you can opt your child out of Chromebooks, AI tools, and digital learning platforms
- Why schools rely so heavily on EdTech, and what parents should ask before accepting it
- What rights parents have to review classroom technology and digital curriculum
- The growing concerns around student privacy, online testing, and Responsible Use Agreements
- How to work with teachers, principals, school boards, and legislators to create meaningful change
If you've ever felt dismissed by your school, wondered whether all this technology is really helping your child learn, or wanted practical advice on how to advocate for healthier classrooms, this conversation is for you.
This episode is part of our four-part Ask the Experts: School Tech Edition mini-series, where we're bringing your biggest back-to-school questions to leading experts in neuroscience, education, online safety, and child development.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
Get your copy of The Digital Delusion by Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath here.
You can find dozens of parent templates for school tech advocacy at Tech-Safe Learning.
A special thank you to Buckets Over Bullying who provided a generous donation in support of this mini-series.

How AI Is Impacting Kids: What Every Parent Needs to Know (with Titania Jordan)
Artificial intelligence (AI) is already woven into nearly every part of our children's digital lives—from Google searches and school-issued devices to Snapchat, Instagram, voice assistants, and AI chatbots. In this episode, Nicki Petrossi brings in Bark Technologies' Titania Jordan to unpack where kids are accessing AI, the growing risks parents should understand, and how families can navigate this rapidly changing technology.
Together, they explore the rise of AI companions like Character.AI and PolyAI, the concerns surrounding tools such as Snapchat's My AI and Meta AI, and the impact AI may have on critical thinking, creativity, emotional development, and real-world relationships. They also discuss how schools are introducing AI into classrooms, what parents should know about AI on school-issued devices, and why children may be particularly vulnerable to misinformation and emotional manipulation from AI systems.
Most importantly, Nicki and Titania share practical steps families can take today—from delaying access and setting boundaries to having ongoing conversations that help kids use technology as a tool rather than a replacement for human connection.
This isn't a conversation about fear—it's a conversation about preparation. As AI becomes an increasingly permanent part of modern life, parents have an opportunity to help shape how the next generation engages with it safely, thoughtfully, and responsibly.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
WATCH: The AI Doc
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The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: The Evidence (with attorney Previn Warren)
The courtroom battles are still unfolding, and the evidence continues to grow.
In this episode of The Heat is On: Big Tech on Trial, Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner chat with attorney Previn Warren, co-lead counsel on thousands of federal lawsuits brought against TikTok, YouTube, Meta, and Snap. They discuss the landmark case brought by Kayley (KGM), who won her lawsuit after evidence showed that Meta and YouTube contributed significantly to her anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts, as well as the recent settlement in the Brethitt County Schools case just days before trial.
As more families, school districts, and states take social media companies to court, one thing has become clear: the evidence uncovered through these lawsuits is too important to stay buried in court filings. Previn joins the show to make a major announcement about a new effort to organize and make this evidence more accessible to the public.
What did these companies know about the harms their products could cause?
What have years of litigation revealed?
And how can parents, educators, journalists, and policymakers learn from the growing body of evidence?
The trials are continuing, the stakes couldn't be higher, and the evidence is finally coming into view.

The Heat is On...DC: How many more? (with parent survivor Amy Neville)
This week, Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner take listeners to Washington, D.C., following an emotional and powerful Social Media Victims Remembrance Day (SMVRD)—a day dedicated to honoring the children lost to social media harms and the families fighting to prevent more names from being added to the memorial each year.
The episode explores why families, advocates, and lawmakers gathered on Capitol Hill to demand action, and why so many parents believe the burden of protecting children online can no longer rest on families alone. Nicki and Sarah reflect on the growing national awareness of social media harms, the momentum created by the ongoing addiction trials, and the frustration of watching meaningful reform continue to stall.
They also break down two major developments in Washington: reports that tech CEOs may avoid a highly anticipated Senate hearing on social media harms, and the passage of the controversial Kids Internet and Digital Safety Act (KIDS Act), which critics say prioritizes Big Tech interests over child safety.
Later, parent survivor and Alexander Neville Foundation founder Amy Neville joins the show to share why she and Kristen Bride created SMVRD, what this year’s event meant to impacted families, and why keeping courthouse doors open and holding platforms accountable remains critical to protecting future generations.
Plus, Nicki and Sarah discuss the growing global movement to raise the age of social media access, why age-gating alone won’t solve the problem, and the one change experts believe would make the biggest difference: eliminating the addictive features that keep children hooked.
Because remembrance without action isn’t enough.
Here's a letter-writing tool to contact your Senators. Ask them to Vote "No" on the KIDS Act that passed in the House of Representatives.
The Heat is On is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death in partnership with Heat Initiative. Thank you to our expert editor, Jacob Meade.

The Heat is On...Snapchat (One Week on Snapchat as a 7th Grader)
What really happens when a 13-year-old joins Snapchat?
In this episode, we break down a disturbing new investigation from ParentsTogether Action and Heat Initiative that followed two avatar accounts posing as 7th graders on Snapchat for just one week — and what researchers found is deeply alarming.
The report claims Snapchat recommended hundreds of unsafe videos to the teen accounts, including drug content, sexual material, self-harm videos, violent content, and connections to strangers who appeared to be adults. Researchers say the accounts were shown unsafe content at an average rate of about one video per minute, often without searching for it.
We unpack the most shocking findings:
- Adult strangers recommended as friends
- Sexualized comments on videos featuring children
- Drug sellers and explicit creators suggested to minors
- Content promoting self-harm, violence, and disordered eating
- Concerns around live location sharing for young teens
This episode explores what the report reveals about algorithmic recommendation systems, platform safety promises, and the growing concerns parents are raising about social media and children.

Is the iPhone Finally Safe for Kids? (with Titania Jordan & Chris McKenna)
Apple wants parents to celebrate its latest parental control updates. But child safety advocates aren't buying the hype.
In this episode, I brought in Titania Jordan of Bark Technologies and Chris McKenna of Protect Young Eyes to separate PR from reality. They discuss why Apple's changes arrived only after mounting lawsuits and legislative pressure, what the company still isn't doing to protect children, and why many of the announced features amount to little more than shifting responsibility back onto parents.
If Apple truly prioritizes child safety, why can children still receive explicit content, easily workaround parental controls and use a device designed primarily for adults?
Before you trust the headlines, listen to what the experts have to say.
Safer options for your child:

The Heat is On...Apple (powered by child sexual abuse)
Apple has built its brand on privacy, trust, and innovation. But when it comes to protecting children, has the company done enough?
In this episode of The Heat Is On, hosts Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner examine Apple's long and controversial history with child safety. While Apple recently announced new parental controls and family safety features at WWDC 2026, critics say the company continues to ignore one of the most urgent child protection issues on its platform: the presence of known child sexual abuse material (CSAM) in iCloud.
Sarah shares her decade-long experience pushing Apple to address the problem, including behind-the-scenes conversations with the company, Apple's abandoned 2021 CSAM detection initiative, and the ongoing debate between privacy and child protection. The discussion also explores Apple's role in hosting AI nudify apps, concerns about App Store safety, and the direct-action campaigns that have brought survivors, advocates, and national media attention to Apple's doorstep.
Sign the petition asking Apple to detect, report and remove child sexual abuse material.
The hosts break down Apple's latest child safety announcements, what they could mean for families, and why advocates say parents should wait for independent testing before assuming the new protections will work as promised.
If one of the world's most powerful technology companies can't find a way to protect both privacy and children, what does that mean for the rest of the tech industry?
In this episode:
- Apple's history of refusing to detect known CSAM in iCloud
- Why child safety advocates supported Apple's abandoned 2021 detection plan
- The scale of online child sexual abuse material and its impact on survivors
- Apple's App Store, AI nudify apps, and deepfake child exploitation concerns
- The direct-action campaigns pressuring Apple to change
- A breakdown of Apple's newly announced parental controls and safety features
- What parents should know before trusting Big Tech's safety promises
The Heat is On is a Scrolling 2 Death production in partnership with Heat Initiative.
Editing provided by Jacob Meade.

New Data Exposes the School Tech Crisis (with Titania Jordan)
When schools hand children Chromebooks, iPads, Google accounts, and Microsoft Teams access, what’s really happening behind the screen?
In this eye-opening conversation, Titania Jordan joins Nicki Petrossi to reveal alarming new data from Bark Technologies’s monitoring of school-issued technology used by millions of students across the U.S.
The findings are staggering:
- 12% of children encountered cyberbullying
- 3.74% encountered instances of depression
- 7.46% encountered discussion or content related to suicidal ideation, imminent suicide or self-harm
- 39.83% of students encountered violent content
- 22% were exposed to drug-related content
- 10.77% encountered sexual content
- 11.64% encountered medically-concerning content
- 2.69% encountered hate speech
- 0.23% encountered body image content
- 1.79% encountered anxiety-related content
They discuss how students are using Google Docs like disappearing-message apps, why schools are struggling to keep up, and what parents can do right now to better protect their children.
This episode is a wake-up call for parents, educators, school administrators, and policymakers about the unintended consequences of putting addictive, poorly protected technology into children’s hands.
Get Bark for Schools (for free!)

The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Beyond the Headlines (with Kaley’s lead attorney Mark Lanier)
Legendary trial attorney Mark Lanier joins Nicki and Sarah for an emotional, behind-the-scenes look at the landmark social media addiction trial that ended in a jury verdict against Meta and YouTube.
For nearly two months, we sat inside the Los Angeles courtroom documenting every moment — filling 589 pages of notes as grieving parents, advocates, reporters, jurors, and teams of attorneys battled over one central question: did these platforms knowingly build products that addict children, like Kaley?
In this deeply personal interview, Mark breaks down exactly how the case was won, why Snapchat and TikTok settled just before trial, and what the jury ultimately decided about Kaley, the young woman at the center of the case. He also reveals shocking moments the public never saw — defense witnesses backing out, chaos inside the courthouse, the strategy behind avoiding a billion-dollar “runaway verdict,” and the cross-examinations that changed everything.
The episode also revisits some of the most unforgettable lines from the trial, responding directly to claims made in court by executives and attorneys from Meta and YouTube.
But this conversation is bigger than one verdict. It’s about children, addiction, grief, corporate power, and the parents fighting back against trillion-dollar tech companies. Mark shares what he believes this case means for the future of Big Tech accountability, why he calls it a defining trial of the 21st century, and the message he hopes families around the world take away from Kaley's story.
The episode closes with a powerful discussion about parenting, love, and why human connection may be the strongest defense families have against platforms designed to exploit vulnerability.
If you followed this trial in real time — or if you’re just beginning to understand what these platforms are doing to children — this is an episode you won’t forget.
Here's a link to the actual verdict forms that the jury completed.
Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.

The Canvas Breach: 275 Million People at Risk (with attorney Andy Liddell)
When parents log into Canvas, they expect homework assignments and grades — not ransom notes.
In this urgent episode, I spoke with attorney Andrew Liddell about the massive alleged breach involving Instructure and its learning management platform, Canvas, reportedly affecting thousands of schools and millions of students, teachers, and college faculty worldwide.
Here's a full list of the 8,000+ schools which were affected.
Andy breaks down:
- What Canvas is and why it’s used in so many schools
- How enormous amounts of student data are collected and shared
- What allegedly happened in the breach
- Why hackers targeted this information
- What exposed school data could mean for families long-term
- Why schools are becoming “soft targets” for cyberattacks
- What parents should do right now if their child’s school uses Canvas
The conversation also goes beyond this single breach and explores a larger question: Have schools quietly normalized mass surveillance of children through EdTech?
Andy explains why privacy isn’t just about secrecy — it’s about childhood itself.
“Privacy is the soil in which we grow.”
This episode is essential listening for parents, teachers, school administrators, and anyone concerned about the growing role of Big Tech in education.
Contact Andy's team at edtech.law to find out more about this lawsuit and others. Here's a direct link to their lawsuit against Instructure.

This Isn't a Parenting Problem (with Glen Pounder of Scouting America)
When kids are harmed online, the first question people ask is: “Where were the parents?”
In this episode of Scrolling 2 Death, we challenge that instinct—and expose why it is doing more harm than good.
Scrolling 2 Death host Nicki Petrossi is joined by Glen Pounder, Executive Vice President and Chief Safeguarding Officer at Scouting America, to unpack one of the most persistent myths in child safety: that better parenting can prevent online harm.
Drawing from his 30-year career combating crimes against children—and his recent article “The Comfort of Blame – and the Limits of Even the Best Parenting”—Glen shares what he’s seen firsthand: families who did everything right… and still had children targeted, groomed, and exploited online.
This conversation goes beyond surface-level advice and into the uncomfortable truth:
- Why parent blame is so appealing—and so dangerous
- How exploitation actually happens, even in attentive households
- The hidden cost of shame, silence, and misplaced responsibility
- And why this is not a parenting failure—it’s a systems failure
In the wake of major legal battles involving Meta and YouTube, this episode asks a harder question:
Who really benefits when we keep blaming parents instead of holding platforms accountable?
Because while families are being told to “do more,” tech companies continue to design environments that make harm easier—and harder to detect.
If we want to actually protect kids, we have to move beyond blame… and start demanding better systems.

Does i-Ready Work? A Neuroscientist Weighs In (with Dr. Jared Cooney-Horvath)
In this eye-opening conversation, Nicki Petrossi sits down with neuroscientist Jared Cooney-Horvath to unpack the claims behind i-Ready—one of the most widely used EdTech tools in U.S. classrooms. What starts as a discussion of Nicki’s data privacy lawsuit quickly expands into a deeper investigation: does i-Ready actually help kids learn?
Jared breaks down the startling lack of credible, peer-reviewed research supporting i-Ready’s effectiveness, explaining how most claims rely on weak comparisons or company-backed studies. He reveals why “time on task” can be misleading, how EdTech companies shape persuasive narratives without solid evidence, and why human-led instruction consistently outperforms digital tools when it comes to real learning.
Together, they connect the dots between data privacy concerns and academic outcomes—arguing that if a product isn’t meaningfully improving learning, schools must question why it’s being used at all. The episode also explores the growing national momentum among parents, teachers, and districts pushing back on excessive screen time and demanding accountability from EdTech companies.
If you’ve ever wondered what’s really behind the tools your child is required to use in school, this conversation gives you the data—and the questions—you need to start pushing for answers.
Jared's Substack: i-Ready: 13 Million Students, Zero Meaningful Evidence

MINI EPISODE: LAUSD Passes Landmark School Screen Policy (with Lila Byock)
In this mini-episode of Scrolling 2 Death, Nicki brought in Lila Byock to break down a major victory: the Los Angeles Unified School District has unanimously passed a sweeping new technology policy that limits screen use for students. After months of relentless advocacy from parents and teachers, the district is eliminating devices for its youngest learners, restricting platforms like YouTube, and setting clear screen time boundaries. They discuss what passed and how this moment could spark a nationwide shift in how schools use technology—and how you can bring these changes to your own district.
LAUSD's new policy linked here

I've sued i-Ready | Answering your questions (with attorney Andy Liddell)
So…I’ve sued another EdTech company. Here's a direct link to information on the lawsuit.
This time, it’s Curriculum Associates — the multi-billion-dollar maker of i-Ready, used by more than 14 million children in grades K–8, including my own.
In this episode, I break down why we’ve filed a lawsuit alleging that Curriculum Associates’ core business model depends on harvesting massive amounts of student data, monetizing it, and allegedly sharing children’s personal information with dozens of third parties for commercial purposes. We further allege the company builds deeply invasive psychological and behavioral profiles on students — profiles that can follow them and potentially harm them.
I never consented to this. And neither did millions of parents.
Sending our children to public school is a legal right. We should not have to expose them to commercial data trafficking just to get an education.
With the average school district using thousands of EdTech tools each year — and each child accessing dozens — the question isn’t whether this is happening. The question is whether parents ever gave meaningful, informed consent.
Joining me is Andy Liddell, attorney with the EdTech Law Center, to answer the questions flooding in from parents and teachers:
- What exactly are we alleging?
- What data is actually being collected?
- Is academic growth tracking the same as data mining?
- Can parents opt out?
- Is this a class action?
- What can teachers do?
- And what do we say to critics who claim this is just fear-mongering?
If you’re a parent, teacher, or school leader, this conversation is one you cannot afford to miss.
If you’re interested in learning more or potentially joining an EdTech-related lawsuit, visit: edtech.law.
Because this isn’t just about i-Ready.
It’s about whether our children’s data belongs to them — or to corporations.
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[THE VERDICT] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial
On March 25, 2026, after eight days of deliberation, the jury reached a verdict in the first bellwether trial against Meta and YouTube.
The verdict: The jury ruled in favor of Kaley on all counts. Scroll down to the bottom of this description for the full verdict.
This week, we take you inside the final, nerve-wracking days in the hallway and courtroom — the jury questions about expert testimony, deleted accounts, Instagram usage, punitive damages, and the moment they told the judge they were deadlocked with one defendant.
We walk through what each question meant, what it revealed about the jury’s thinking, and how both sides responded. You’ll hear what happened in real time as families waited, attorneys speculated, and the stakes became crystal clear.
We’re joined by Laura Marquez-Garrett of the Social Media Victims Law Center to break down:
- What the verdict actually means
- Whether an appeal is likely
- Why early bellwether cases often shape — but don’t decide — the larger war
- What happens next in the thousands of cases still moving forward
Because this was never just about one family.
It the most powerful tech companies in the world… versus families. And this verdict is the accelerator of justice.
The trials continue. Thousands of families. Dozens of states. School districts. The pressure is building. We’ll continue to be inside the courtroom translating it all for parents everywhere.
The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative.
Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.
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THE VERDICT
META
- Was Meta negligent in the design or operation of Instagram? YES
- Was Meta’s negligence a substantial factor in causing harm to KGM? YES
- Did Meta know or should it reasonably have known that the design or operation of Instagram was dangerous or was likely to be dangerous when used by a minor in a reasonably foreseeable manner? YES
- Did Meta know or should it reasonably have known that users would not realize the danger? YES
- Did Meta fail to adequately warn of the danger? YES
- Would a reasonable platform designer or operator under the same or similar circumstances have warned of the danger or instructed on the safe use of the platform? YES
- Was Meta's failure to adequately warn or instruct a substantial factor in causing harm to KGM? YES
YOUTUBE
- Was YouTube negligent in the design or operation of YouTube? YES
- Was YouTube's negligence a substantial factor in causing harm to KGM? YES
- Did YouTube know or should it reasonably have known that the design or operation of YouTube was dangerous or was likely to be dangerous when used by a minor in a reasonably foreseeable manner? YES
- Did YouTube know or should it reasonably have known that users would not realize the danger? YES
- Did YouTube fail to adequately warn of the danger? YES
- Would a reasonable platform designer or operator under the same or similar circumstances have warned of the danger or instructed on the safe use of the platform? YES
- Was YouTube's failure to adequately warn or instruct a substantial factor in causing harm to KGM? YES
THE DAMAGES
A. What are KGM's damages?
$3,000,000
B. What percentage of responsibility for K.G.M.’s harm do you assign to each of the following?
70% Meta
30% YouTube
C. Do you find that K.G.M. proved by clear and convincing evidence that Meta acted with malice, oppression, or fraud in conduct upon which you base your finding of liability? YES
D. Do you find that K.G.M. proved by clear and convincing evidence that YouTube acted with malice, oppression, or fraud in conduct upon which you base your finding of liability? YES
PUNITIVE DAMAGES: $3,000,000 ($2.1M to Meta, $900K to YouTube)
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[WEEK 7 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Final Witnesses. Closings. Deliberations Begin.
This week on The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, we reached a turning point.
After weeks of testimony, we heard from the final witnesses — including Meta’s paid medical expert, internal researchers, and YouTube leadership. New details emerged about deleted watch history data, internal warnings about teen risk, and what company executives knew about under-13 enforcement.
Then came closing arguments.
Mark Lanier argued that platform design targeted Kaley from a young age. Attorneys for Meta and YouTube pushed back, claiming there is no proven causal link between social media and mental health struggles, for Kaley or anyone else.
Friday morning, the jury began deliberating.
Now nine jurors must decide:
Were these platforms negligently designed in ways that substantially contributed to Kaley’s anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts? Or not?
We’re inside the courtroom translating what this case means for parents everywhere — because these trials aren't just about one child. It could shape the future of accountability for TikTok, YouTube, Meta, and Snap Inc..
Verdict watch has begun.
The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative.
Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.
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[WEEK 6 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: A Psychologist, A Whistleblower + Plaintiff Rests Their Case
This week inside the courtroom, science took center stage — and the stakes were higher than ever.
Dr. Kara Bagot, a psychiatrist and neuroscientist who helped develop the NIH’s landmark ABCD brain study, spent five days on the stand. She testified that to a reasonable degree of medical certainty, Kaley developed social media addiction — and that YouTube acted as the “gateway,” beginning at just six years old. She walked the jury through the platform features that fuel compulsive use: infinite scroll, autoplay, algorithms, notifications, likes, filters, Shorts, Reels, and the lack of meaningful age verification.
Under intense cross-examination from Meta and YouTube’s attorneys, Dr. Bagot held her ground — insisting on context over yes-or-no soundbites. Jurors watched closely. When she was finally excused, there as a quiet applause.
Then came former Meta safety executive and whistleblower Arturo Bejar. He testified that by 2019, Meta researchers had identified addiction as a serious issue — but leadership discouraged even using the word, replacing it with “problematic use.” He described internal knowledge of harmful design choices, ineffective safety tools, and what he called “dark patterns,” including the infamous “blue button” that discouraged user reporting.
Arturo also testified that age verification is not technically difficult — and that Meta could remove millions of under-13 users if it chose to.
Next up was child safety expert and mom, Brooke Istook. Brooke powerfully described the generational tech gap, Instagram's growth team promoting FINSTAs, misleading safety promises, and the no-win position families face trying to supervise platforms designed to outmaneuver them.
By week’s end, the Plaintiffs rested their case and the Defense began calling witnesses in the form of video depositions.
Meanwhile, outside this courtroom, the pressure is mounting. Big tech lobbyists have infiltrated important online safety legislation and 33 new families across 19 states have joined the consolidated JCCP litigation, with Roblox newly added to the complaints.
Thousands of families. Dozens of states. And now jurors — everyday people — watching some of the richest companies in the world fight a single family over what caused a young girl’s harm.
These are the tobacco trials of our generation.
We’re inside the courtroom translating it all in real time — joined this week by Christine Almadjian, legislative consultant and courtroom observer, and Lennon Torres of Heat Initiative — bringing you the moments that mattered, the legal context behind the strategy, and what it means for families everywhere.
Because this fight isn’t abstract.
It’s about the apps in our kids’ pockets.
It’s about truth, justice and accountability.
And it’s about whether these companies will finally be forced to change.
We stand with families.
The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative.
Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.
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[BONUS EPISODE] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Meta Whistleblower Brian Boland
What really happens inside one of the most powerful companies in the world?
This week, we sit down with Brian Boland, a former senior leader at Facebook (pre-Meta), who spent more than a decade helping build and scale Facebook and Instagram's advertising systems — and later testified in court about what he saw.
Brian was in the courtroom for nearly five hours. In this candid conversation, he pulls back the curtain on:
- What it feels like to testify under oath against your former company
- How Meta’s internal culture shifted after whistleblowers like Frances Haugen spoke out
- The reality of Mark Zuckerberg’s power inside the company — and why the board can’t remove him
- How algorithms are built, tested, and optimized — and why even engineers don’t fully understand their long-term impacts
- Whether Meta is truly incentivized to limit teen usage
- The truth about ad revenue from minors
- How accurate age-estimation technology really is — and why that matters
- What whistleblowing actually costs the people who do it
Brian doesn’t call for the end of social media. In fact, he believes these platforms could be built to strengthen communities. But he’s clear: the current incentives — profit, growth, daily active users — drive decisions that put engagement above safety.
He also shares what he told executives, including Mark Zuckerberg, before he left — and the response he received.
If you’ve ever wondered:
- Are these platforms intentionally habit-forming?
- Do they really know how young users are?
- Could they reduce harm if they wanted to?
- Why don’t more insiders speak out?
This episode is essential listening.
It’s a rare, inside look at how power, profit, algorithms, and accountability collide — and what it might actually take to force change.
The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative.
Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.
Research mentioned in the episode: Social media platforms generate billions of dollars in revenue from U.S. youth: Findings from a simulated revenue model (Raffoul article)
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[WEEK 5 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Kaley Takes the Stand
This week, we’re joined by Meta whistleblower Brian Boland, who appeared as a witness in this trial, and law student Christine Almadjian, who has spent hours inside the courtroom watching this case unfold. Christine is also a legislative consultant with END OSEAC.
Thousands of families, school districts, and dozens of states have filed consolidated lawsuits against TikTok, YouTube, Meta, and Snap Inc., alleging their platforms were deliberately designed to addict and harm children. Some are calling this “the tobacco trial of our generation.”
The first case centers on Kaley — a child like yours and mine — facing the most powerful companies in the world.
This week, YouTube’s VP of Engineering defended the algorithm as internal documents revealed research linking excessive use to addiction, sleep disruption, anxiety, depression, and body image issues — along with features like autoplay designed to increase watch time. We heard testimony that kids using YouTube while logged out are treated like adults, with no safety features enabled.
A data expert challenged Meta and YouTube’s reported ad revenue from minors, citing “significant errors and contradictions,” followed by testimony from Kaley's therapist.
Then Kaley took the stand.
She described creating multiple accounts to like her own videos and posts, sneaking her phone at night, spending up to 16 hours a day on Instagram, feeling panic without her device — and still, at 20 years old, struggling to stop. When asked whether she had addiction, anxiety, depression, or body dysmorphia before social media, her answer was simple: no.
Meta and YouTube pushed back hard, pointing to family conflict and school bullying. In just a few weeks, the jury will decide if social media was a subsantial factor in her mental heath struggles.
This case isn’t just about one family. It’s about millions of kids — and what happens next affects all of us.
The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative.
Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.
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[WEEK 4 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Zuckerberg. A Whistleblower. The Trial Ignites.
This week on The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, the spotlight was on Mark Zuckerberg — but it didn’t stay there for long.
Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner take you inside a dramatic week in court as Zuckerberg faced questioning about youth safety, platform design, and internal company practices — followed by testimony from a former insider whose statements directly conflicted with his.
In this episode:
- The most revealing exchanges from Zuckerberg’s time on the stand
- The key claims he made — and what evidence challenged them
- A whistleblower’s testimony that told a very different story about how platforms operate
- Emotional reactions from parents watching it unfold in real time
- Why legal observers say this week could shift momentum in the trial
- A new Annual Report by Bark connecting Kaley's harm to children today
Millions are watching because what happens here will reshape accountability for the most powerful tech companies in the world.
This isn’t just a trial. It’s a turning point.
Thank you to our special guest, Titania Jordan of Bark Technologies. Here's their 2025 Annual Report, referenced in the episode.
The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative.
Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.
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[WEEK 3 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Opening Statements. First Witnesses.
Week 3 marks a turning point inside the courtroom: opening statements begin, the first witnesses take the stand, and the stakes become unmistakably real. Hosts Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner (of Heat Initiative) bring you inside the proceedings as plaintiffs and defense lay out competing narratives about what happened to Kaley—and what responsibility tech giants bear.
Plaintiff attorney Mark Lanier delivers what attendees call a “masterclass” opening, previewing internal records from YouTube and Meta suggesting early-age targeting and engineering for addiction. Defense attorney Paul Schmidt counters with a starkly different claim: that social platforms can benefit vulnerable teens and that responsibility lies elsewhere - on parents. YouTube counsel Louis Lee insists repeatedly: YouTube is not social media.
The first expert witness, addiction psychiatrist Dr. Anna Lembke of Stanford University, author of Dopamine Nation, walks jurors through the neuroscience of compulsive use—arguing that platform design features can function like addictive stimuli, especially for adolescents. Cross-examinations grow tense as attorneys challenge her comparisons and conclusions.
Midweek brings the highly anticipated testimony of Adam Mosseri, head of Instagram, questioned about past statements on social media addiction, teen safety, and whether growth incentives conflict with child protection. Outside the courthouse, grieving parents—including featured guest John DeMay—camp overnight for seats, hold direct actions targeting Snapchat, and remind the world what this trial is really about: children.
You’ll hear:
- Real-time courthouse reflections
- Parent voices from the steps outside
- Key courtroom exchanges that could shape the verdict
- Legal context explaining what jurors must decide
Next week’s witnesses raise the stakes even higher, with expected testimony from Mark Zuckerberg and Neal Mohan.
Because this isn’t just a trial. It’s a reckoning. And we’re translating every moment that matters for families everywhere.
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[BONUS EPISODE] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: A Conversation with Toney & Brandy Roberts
This bonus episode of The Heat is On… Big Tech on Trial slows down to hold space for the weight of this moment.
Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner are joined by Brandy and Toney Roberts, parents of 14-year-old Englyn Roberts, whose life was cut short after being exposed to harmful content on Instagram and other social media platforms. What unfolds is not just a conversation about Meta’s technology—but about grief, truth, and what it means to refuse indifference.
The Roberts family shares how Instagram’s algorithms repeatedly recommended suicide-related content to their daughter, how duplicate videos remained online long after being reported, and how easily this material continues to circulate today. Sarah breaks down the technical reality: the tools to prevent and remove this content exist—and always have.
Interwoven with these devastating realities are moments of grounding, connection, and meaning: reflections on community among bereaved parents, a courthouse vigil outside the Los Angeles trial, and the belief that love—never indifference—is what drives this fight.
This episode is raw. It is painful. And it is essential.
As the courtroom doors finally open, this conversation captures what’s truly on trial: corporate choices, accountability, and the lives of children.
Listener discretion advised.
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[WEEK 2 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Meta Stalls. Families Stand
Week 2 inside the courtroom didn’t unfold the way anyone expected.
Just as jury selection was set to continue, the judge announced a sudden pause—triggered by illness, followed by a denied request from Meta to delay the trial for 30 days. What does a delay really mean in a case like this? And who benefits when time is bought?
In this episode of The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, hosts Nicki Petrossi (of Scrolling 2 Death) and Sarah Gardner (of Heat Initiative) break down what happened behind the scenes, why jury selection may be the most important phase of the entire trial, and how defense strategies are already taking shape.
You’ll hear legal context from veteran trial attorney Michael Quade, along with firsthand perspective from affected parents Toney and Brandy Roberts, who lost their 14-year-old daughter Englyn and are suing Meta, Snap, and TikTok for wrongful death and negligence.
This week was grounded not by legal maneuvering—but by the parents.
Survivor parents from around the world gathered in Los Angeles to witness the trial. Together, they held a vigil on the courthouse steps, honoring their children and demanding accountability. Nearly 20 media outlets showed up to hear their stories—not corporate talking points, but the human cost behind them.
This case isn’t just about evidence or arguments. It’s about children.
It’s about who controls the narrative.
And it’s about which side of history we choose to stand on.
We’re inside the courtroom—so parents everywhere don’t have to rely on headlines alone.
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[WEEK 1 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Jury Selection
The courtroom doors are open—and the stakes couldn’t be higher.
In this Week 1 recap of The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, we take you inside the very beginning of what some are calling the tobacco trials of our generation: the first case in the social media addiction litigation, where some of the most powerful companies in the world—Meta and YouTube—are facing off against a child.
This week was all about jury selection. But don’t let the term fool you—some trials are effectively decided here.
From the courthouse, hosts Nicki Petrossi (of Scrolling 2 Death) and Sarah Gardner (of Heat Initiative) break down what actually happened during the week, why it matters, and what an “impartial juror” even looks like in a world saturated by social media.
We’re joined by:
- Attorney Laura Marquez Garrett (SMVLC), with legal context on jury selection, the TikTok and Snap settlements, and what Big Tech fears most as this trial moves forward.
- Julianna Arnold, founding member of Parents RISE and mom to Coco, who passed awayat 17 from social media harms—and now a plaintiff in the consolidated case—sharing what it feels like to finally be this close to the truth.
In this episode, you'll hear:
- What stood out emotionally and ethically inside the courtroom
- How 450 potential jurors were narrowed down—and why that process can make or break the case
- Why media access is already a fight, with only 10 seats available for press
- The growing comparisons between these trials and Big Tobacco—and what history tells us
- What survivor parents are bracing for as testimony begins
Plus: what’s coming next, including opening statements, witness testimony, and the anticipated appearance of Mark Zuckerberg.
We’re inside the courtroom so parents everywhere don’t have to guess what’s happening behind closed doors.
Because this trial—and the ones that follow—will shape the future of child safety online.
Next week: Final jury selection and Opening Statements.
Stay with us. Share this episode. And keep paying attention.
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[PRE-TRIAL] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial | What This Trial Means for Parents
The Calm Before the Storm — What This Trial Means for Parents
What happens when families finally take Big Tech to court—and win the right to be heard?
In the premiere episode of The Heat Is On… Big Tech on Trial, hosts Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner take parents inside what some are calling the trial of the century: consolidated lawsuits brought by thousands of families, school districts, and 29 states against Meta, Snap, TikTok, and YouTube for allegedly addicting and harming children.
Sitting in the courtroom so you don’t have to, we will break down what this trial is really about—addiction, internal knowledge, and accountability—and why it matters for how you parent right now. You’ll hear from attorneys working the case, who explain how these cases came together and what’s at stake, and from parents whose children have been harmed (or lost) to harms instigated by social media.
This episode sets the stage for what’s coming next: the first bellwether trial (KGM), the judge, the jury, the defense tactics, and what parents should be watching for as CEOs prepare to take the stand.
This isn’t about screen time.
It’s about accountability.
And it’s about protecting our children.
New episodes drop weekly as the trial unfolds. Sign up for trial updates at https://www.scrolling2death.com/heat
Thank you to our special guests on this episode, Laura Marquez-Garrett of the Social Media Victims Law Center, Previn Warren of Motley Rice and Lori Schott, mom of Annalee (forever 18).

EdTech is Big Tech: Schools, Screens, and the Law (with Emily Cherkin)
In this episode of Scrolling 2 Death, I’m joined by Emily Cherkin, known as The Screentime Consultant—a leading voice pushing back against the digitization, commodification, and gamification of childhood.
Emily is a best-selling author, professor, speaker, and lead plaintiff in lawsuits challenging EdTech’s exploitation of children’s privacy. This week, she’s taking that fight straight to Washington, DC—testifying before the U.S. Senate.
We start by tackling the questions parents ask me every day:
- Is there a real link between screen time and declining literacy?
- What does the NIH’s ABCD brain study actually show about changes to kids’ brains?
- How do you enforce age ratings when everyone else’s kid has access to mature games?
- What can parents do about screens at school beyond 1:1 devices—from Smartboards to YouTube to GoNoodle?
- And how do you push back when schools say, “The program requires X minutes to be effective”?
Then we shift to what’s happening in the Senate:
- Why this hearing is different from past conversations about screen time
- Why EdTech is finally being put under the microscope
- What parents should know about the Kids Off Social Media Act (KOSMA)
- And what real takeaways families can use right now
Finally, we talk about one of the most powerful—and intimidating—tools parents have: lawsuits.
Emily shares updates on her EdTech cases, breaks down how the legal process works, and explains how parents can get involved without feeling overwhelmed.
This is a must-listen for parents who know something is wrong—but are ready to do something about it.
🔗 Resources mentioned:
- Full Senate hearing
- Find out more about taking legal action against EdTech companies: edtech.law
- Emily's Substack: First Fish Chronicles
- Unplug EdTech Toolkit
- The Digital Delusion (book) by Jared Cooney Horvath

Is your child's best friend an AI? (with Sam Hiner)
What happens when artificial intelligence stops acting like a tool—and starts acting like a friend?
In this episode of Scrolling 2 Death, I’m joined by Sam Hiner, founder of Young People's Alliance, a national youth-led organization organizing across 55 college campuses to take on Big Tech and protect the next generation.
Sam began cold-calling lawmakers as a high school student during COVID—and today, he’s helping lead state and federal policy fights against social media addiction and the rise of human-like AI companions that are quietly targeting children.
We unpack:
- Why lawmakers still don’t understand how algorithms—and AI companions—actually work
- How companies like Character.ai, Replika, and others are intentionally designing bots to simulate love, pride, and emotional attachment
- Why kids are forming deep emotional bonds with AI—and what that means for mental health, community, and development
- The disturbing reality of AI companions engaging sexually with minors while hiding behind legal disclaimers
- Why states—not Congress—may be our best chance to protect kids right now
- The new Human-Like AI Framework and what parents can do today to push for real safeguards
This conversation is a wake-up call: AI isn’t just changing how kids learn—it’s changing who they connect with, who they trust, and who they turn to when they’re lonely.
And unless we act, the future being built for our children may look a lot darker than we realize.

"AI or Opt-Out": How One Mom Took Her Kids Off School Chromebooks (with Julie Frumin)
What happens when a school-issued Chromebook starts talking to your child—without permission?
In this episode of Scrolling 2 Death, Nicki is joined by Julie Frumin, a mental health professional, mom, and education safety advocate in Southern California, who shares her shocking experience navigating school-issued devices, hidden AI chatbots, and a system that told her she had only two choices: accept AI on her children’s devices—or turn them in entirely.
Julie walks us through:
- How her elementary-aged daughter was exposed to inappropriate content during school recess
- How an AI chatbot appeared unprompted on her middle schooler’s Chromebook, offering to do his homework
- Why schools claim parents cannot legally opt out of devices in California
- The hidden data collection, surveillance, and lack of transparency inside EdTech platforms
- The intimidation parents face when raising concerns with districts and school boards
- Why “teaching kids to use tech responsibly” ignores brain development and addiction science
We also dig into the bigger picture: Why EdTech is replacing teachers, how school budgets are being diverted to software contracts, and why parents deserve transparency, consent, and the right to refuse technology that doesn’t serve their children.
Julie shares practical advice for parents who want to push back—starting with teachers, navigating principals and school boards, and getting involved in statewide policy efforts, including proposals to:
- Require full transparency and parental consent for EdTech
- Pause AI use in K–8 classrooms
- Restore paper-and-pencil learning and assessments
- Move toward distraction-free, developmentally appropriate schools
This is an essential conversation for any parent who’s been told, “This is just how school works now.”
Because it doesn’t have to be.
Resources, research, and advocacy links mentioned in this episode are available here:
- Parent Templates to start conversations with your school, organized by Tech-Safe Learning
- Fit for Purpose by Faith Bonninger
- Distraction Free Schools California
- Distraction Free Schools (US)
- Interviews with neuroscientist Jared Cooney-Horvath here and here
- Schools Beyond Screens (LAUSD Coalition)
- Book Reco: Screen Damage
- Book Reco: Digital Delusion by Jared Cooney-Horvath
- Join The Heat is On parent group to take action

Smartphones, School Devices & AI: The New Education Crisis (with Rep. Chris Deluzio)
Today on Scrolling 2 Death, Nicki sits down with Congressman Chris Deluzio—a dad of four and a fierce advocate for safer, healthier schools—to unpack one of the most urgent issues facing American families: screens in the classroom.
Rep. Deluzio recently released a major report on smartphone use in schools after months of research and conversations with teachers, administrators, and parents across Western Pennsylvania. He breaks down what he found, why phone-free schools are gaining bipartisan momentum nationwide, and why Pennsylvania has struggled to pass similar legislation.
Nicki and the Congressman go deeper, expanding the conversation beyond smartphones to the overlooked risks of school-issued devices, lack of oversight, and the growing push to introduce AI chatbots into middle-school classrooms. From data privacy to compulsive design to tech companies lobbying to stop states from regulating AI, this episode exposes the full ecosystem of digital harm entering our children’s schools—often without parents’ knowledge.
The conversation ends with a call for bipartisan cooperation and real accountability: parents, educators, and lawmakers working together to ensure that technology in schools actually supports learning instead of undermining it.
If you care about what your kids are exposed to at school, this is an episode you can’t miss.
Elected in 2022 and re-elected in 2024, Congressman Chris Deluzio is serving his second term in Congress representing the people of Pennsylvania’s 17th Congressional District—where he serves on the House Armed Services Committee and the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. Pennsylvania’s 17th district includes all of Beaver County and parts of Allegheny County. Congressman Deluzio is a native of Thornburg and lives with his family in Allegheny County.
Congressman Deluzio is an Iraq War veteran, voting rights attorney, and union organizer. He graduated from Bishop Canevin High School and received a Bachelor of Science degree with merit from the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis.

The Heat is On...Meta (Part 2)
In Part 1, we revealed how Meta’s products are harming kids — not by accident, but by design.
In Part 2, we uncover how Meta responds when confronted with these dangers. Spoiler: it’s manipulation, PR spin, and “safety features” that don’t actually keep kids safe.
We break down Meta’s Teen Accounts rollout, the massive marketing campaign behind it, and the independent tests and new research showing that teens are still being pushed sexual content, violence, self-harm, predators, and more. We examine why experts say Meta’s fixes are performative — and why real change will only come from lawsuits, legislation, and collective public pressure.
We also look at the major court cases underway, the growing protests, and what parents can do right now to demand real protections for kids.
This episode isn’t just about what Meta has done — it’s about what they refuse to do, and how we force the change our kids deserve.
The heat is on.
Here's how you can take action today:
- Sign up for our email list at https://www.scrolling2death.com/heat
- Sign the Petition asking Meta to make Instagram safer. Here's the Petition link.
Hosts:
Nicki Petrossi – Host of Scrolling 2 Death
Sarah Gardner – Founder & CEO of Heat Initiative
Expert Guests:
Kelly Stonelake - Former Meta executive and whistleblower
Arturo Bejar - Former Meta executive and whistleblower
Paul Raffile - Cyber analyst and sextortion expert
Jonathan Haidt - Author of The Anxious Generation
Expert editing provided by Jacob Meade.
Other Resources mentioned in the episode:
- Design it for Us Report: Teen Accounts Fail to Deliver Promised Safety Features
- Teen Survey by Heat Initiative: Instagram Teen Accounts are Missing the Mark
- Research led by Arturo Bejar: Instagram Still Poses Risk to Children, Despite New Safety Tools
- Parents Together Action Report: Teen Accounts Sextortion Report

A Neuroscientist Takes on EdTech (with neuroscientist Jared Cooney-Horvath)
Neuroscientist and author Jared Cooney Horvath is back (check our first conversation here)—this time to tackle yourmost-asked questions about kids, learning, and technology. After a decade of research into tech-based education, his conclusion is stark and unapologetic: technology isn’t helping kids learn… it’s making them dumber.
The pushback he hears most?
“But won’t my child fall behind without tech?”
According to the data: No.
Drawing on ICMS measures of digital literacy across generations, Jared reveals a surprising pattern:
- Millennials outperform Gen Z,
- Gen Z outperforms Gen Alpha—despite Alpha growing up with devices (in their cribs), and
- Gen X—our parents—perform just as well as Gen Z, even though many didn’t touch modern tech until their 30s or 40s.
Jared also dives into the questions parents are asking right now:
- Should AI have a place in the classroom?
- Are short-form videos killing learning?
- Is there any truly educational content for toddlers?
…and much more.
Tune in as Nicki of Scrolling 2 Death and Jared share clear answers, data-backed insights, and a shocking look at what’s really happening to our kids’ brains. If you care about learning, focus, or your child’s future, this is an episode you cannot afford to skip. And don’t forget to grab Jared’s new book, share this episode with your school and parent community, and join the movement to reclaim real learning.

The Heat is On...Meta (Part 1)
The Heat is On is an investigative series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative. Sarah Gardner, Founder and CEO of Heat Initiative, joins Nicki (S2D) to expose the truth Big Tech doesn’t want you to hear – and this episode is about Meta.
Meta’s roots reveal a troubling origin story—from Facemash, where students were rated based on their appearance, to becoming one of the most powerful (and dangerous) tech companies in the world, with over 3.3 billion daily users. Behind the sleek apps and promise for connection lies a history of harmful design choices that target young users—fueling anxiety, depression, eating disorders, self-harm, and even suicide.
In this episode, you’ll hear from former Meta executives and whistleblowers, cybercrime experts, and child-safety researchers who prove that the company knew how harmful its platforms were to kids—and did almost nothing to stop it.
Today, over 40 U.S. states, thousands of school districts, and countless families have taken legal action. And yet, Meta continues to push untested, potentially dangerous features—like their new AI chatbot—on teens without parental consent. Jonathan Haidt, author of The Anxious Generation, weighs in to warn how these harms are reaching an industrial scale and legal action alone is not enough. We all need to work together to hold Big Tech accountable.
It’s time to turn up the heat: Join our email list. Share this episode. Keep your kids off Meta platforms.
Whether you're a parent, caregiver, educator, or simply someone who cares about the well-being of kids, this episode will give you the facts, the tools, and the fire to demand change.
Hosts:
Nicki Petrossi – Host of Scrolling 2 Death
Sarah Gardner – Founder & CEO of Heat Initiative
Expert Guests:
Kelly Stonelake - Former Meta executive and whistleblower
Arturo Bejar - Former Meta executive and whistleblower
Paul Raffile - Cyber analyst and sextortion expert
Jonathan Haidt - Author of The Anxious Generation
Resources mentioned in the episode:
- Instagram Teens research by Parents Together
- NY Times: The Men Who Use Instagram to Groom Child Influencers by Michael Keller
Expert editing provided by Jacob Meade.

Roblox Isn’t a Rite of Passage: Rethinking Online Competence (with Titania Jordan)
Parents everywhere are wrestling with the same impossible question: How do you protect your kids from online harm without raising them in a bubble?
In this episode, Nicki is joined by Titania Jordan, CMO of Bark Technologies, to take on one of the most common—and most misunderstood—parenting mindsets: “We supervise. We talk about safety. We don’t want our kids to be naïve… so we let them use these platforms.”
We read real parent comments about giving kids access to Roblox, YouTube, phones, and social media despite knowing the risks. Together, we break down what this approach gets right—and where it unintentionally opens the door to serious online dangers.
This episode is for every parent trying to thread the needle between keeping kids safe and letting them live in the world.You are not powerless. You don’t have to choose between protection and exposure—you can do both, intentionally.
The goal isn’t perfection.
The goal is raising kids who can navigate the digital world—
not be consumed by it.
Mentioned in the Episode:
- Bark's Connected Communities Program
- Bark Drive-A-Logue Cards
- Join parents taking action at https://www.scrolling2death.com/heat
This episode is sponsored by Bark Technologies:
- Learn about the Bark Phone.
- Learn about the Bark App for iPhones and Androids. *Use code SCROLLING2DEATH FOR 10% OFF
- Learn about the Bark Watch.

The Tech Exit: A Practical Guide for Parents (with Clare Morell)
On this episode of Scrolling 2 Death, host Nicki Petrossi is joined by Clare Morell, author of The Tech Exit and fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Together, they tackle one of the biggest questions parents face today: Do kids really need smartphones and social media to thrive?
Clare reveals why the conventional wisdom—just add parental controls or screen-time limits—is a lie parents have been sold. She introduces The Tech Exit, a bold but practical roadmap for families who want freedom from addictive digital technology. Drawing from expert research, stories of families who’ve gone tech-free, and her own policy work, Clare paints a hopeful picture: children can grow up happier, healthier, and more connected without smartphones in their pockets.
This is a must-listen for any parent searching for a way out of the digital trap.

The Heat is On...Snapchat (Part 2)
The Heat is On is a new investigative series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with The Heat Initiative. Sarah Gardner, Founder and CEO of The Heat Initiative, joins Nicki (S2D) to expose the truth Big Tech doesn’t want you to hear – and our next episode is all about Snapchat.
In Part 1, we revealed how Snapchat built its empire by marketing a sexting app to kids, fueling addiction, exploitation, and harm.
Today, in Part 2, we uncover what happens inside Snapchat when employees raise the alarm. The truth: executives routinely dismiss internal warnings and ignore grieving parents. The company hides behind ineffective parental controls that almost no one uses: fewer than 1% of parents activate them. And it’s not because employees didn’t try. Internal emails show trust and safety staff had “little contact with upper management” and faced pushback whenever they proposed in-app safety features because CEO Evan Spiegel “prioritized design.
According to Snap’s own internal documents, proactively identifying and protecting minors from sexual content or predators would “overburden moderators,” “create disproportionate admin costs,” and should not be Snap’s responsibility.
Snapchat isn’t just failing to prevent harm; it resists cooperation even after tragedies occur. In this episode, you’ll hear how the company obstructs law enforcement and leaves devastated families without support.
This episode isn’t just about what Snapchat has done—it's about what they refuse to do, and what it will take to force change. Lawsuits and legislation matter, but real progress requires collective action and public pressure.
Here are three simple steps parents can take to demand child protections from Snapchat:
1. Join our email list for real-time actions you can take.
2. Set a family rule: no Snapchat for minors—and don’t use it yourself. So basically, no Snapchat ever.
3. Share what you learned with one friend or family member.
This episode was expertly edited by Jacob Meade.
Thank you to our incredible guests:
- Laura Marquez-Garrett - Attorney, Social Media Victims Law Center
- Amy Neville - Parent survivor, founder of Alexander Neville Foundaton
- Jonathan Haidt - Author of The Anxious Generation
- Paul Raffile - Sextortion expert (featured in Part 1)
- Aaron Ping - Survivor parent and host of the Superhuman podcast
- Jim & Kate Sullivan - Survivor parent
- Anna McAdams - Affected parent
- Paul Solotaroff of Rolling Stone
- Sarah Gallagher Trombley, ex-Snapchat executive and founder of Digital Mom Media

How Youth Voices are Reclaiming the Digital Future (with Ava Smithing)
Ava Smithing, Advocacy Director at the Young People’s Alliance, returns to Scrolling 2 Death to share an exciting new project. If you missed her previous episodes, Ava is a leading youth voice for nonpartisan policy solutions for safer technology development. Growing up in the early days of social media, she experienced firsthand how harmful algorithms can shape young users’ lives - even contributing to her own struggle with an eating disorder. Now, she’s turned that experience into a mission to raise awareness and drive change.
In this episode, Ava dives into two key concerns:
- The dangers of engagement algorithms and the harmful content they amplify.
- The erosion of privacy, as tech companies quietly collect and share user data across apps and sites to influence what we see and buy online.
To elevate youth perspectives, Ava has launched a new podcast, Left to Their Own Devices, which explores the real stories of young people navigating life online. But the show doesn’t just highlight the harms; it imagines what a healthier, more ethical digital world could look like.
Tune in as Nicki from Scrolling 2 Death and Ava discuss why young people shouldn’t just be consulted about technology’s future - they should be guiding us all

The Heat is On...Snapchat (Part 1)
The Heat is On is an investigative series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative. Sarah Gardner, Founder and CEO of Heat Initiative, joins Nicki (S2D) to expose the truth Big Tech doesn’t want you to hear – and this episode is all about Snapchat.
From a disappearing-nude app in 2011 to a social media giant in 2025, Snapchat’s story is one of innovation, imitation, and controversy. When it comes to digital harms and kids, Snapchat ranks among the worst—which is why this story expands two parts. In Part 1, we’re exposing how Snapchat’s “innovations” have put profits ahead of our children’s safety.
Snapchat’s culture was flawed from the start. The FTC sanctioned the company early on for misleading users about how ‘private’ disappearing snaps really were. Since then, features like Discover and AR filters have been designed to keep kids endlessly engaged, regardless of the consequences.
Today, nearly half of all U.S. teens use Snapchat. Yet the platform continues to enable drug poisonings, connect minors with predators, and drive addictive use. As psychologist Jonathan Haidt warns, Snapchat is harming children on an industrial scale - and insiders admit the company knows but fails to act.
Online drug dealing, especially fentanyl-laced pills, has fueled a 350% rise in teen deaths over the past three years. Snapchat’s Quick Add feature helps dealers find young users, exposing an estimated 700,000 people to drug content daily. Even when dealers are reported, only one in four accounts is removed.
Sextortion is another growing crisis. Snapchat receives about 10,000 reports each month— numbers employees say barely scratch the surface. Predators exploit the app’s disappearing messages, and with Snap Map, digital threats increasingly turn into real-world harm.
Rather than designing for safety, Snapchat keeps doubling down on engagement. Features like Snapstreaks drive compulsive use; 45% of teens now use the app “almost constantly.” Your child’s attention keeps them profitable.
In this episode, Sarah and Nicki hear from parents and experts who’ve seen the damage firsthand. Their message is clear: these aren’t accidents - they’re design choices. The question is...can Snapchat fix this? Or is Snap a lost cause?
Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.
Thank you to our featured guests:
- Laura Marquez-Garrett - Attorney, Social Media Victims Law Center
- Amy Neville - Parent survivor, founder of Alexander Neville Foundation
- Jonathan Haidt - Author of The Anxious Generation
- Paul Raffile - Cyber-analyst and worldwide sextortion expert
- Aaron Ping - Survivor parent of Avery Ping and host of the Superhuman podcast
- Jim & Kate Sullivan - Survivor parent of Jack Sullivan
- Anna McAdams - Online safety advocate and mom of Elliston
- Paul Solotaroff - Senior Writer at Rolling Stone
- Mike Neff - Attorney, Neff Injury Law
- Sarah Gallagher Trombley - former Snapchat Exec and Founder of Digital Mom Media

Taken by Social Media: Honoring London Gadd, forever 12
This episode discusses youth suicide and social media harm; listener discretion is advised.
London was bright, goofy, empathetic, brilliant. She played soccer year-round, read nonstop, danced through the kitchen, and filled her Michigan home with laughter. But during the pandemic, when she was just eight, a smartphone and social media entered her life. What followed was a years-long battle with algorithmic addiction that Charay—like millions of parents—never saw coming.
In this raw and devastating interview, London’s mom Charay Gadd shares the truth no parent should ever have to live through: TikTok pushing self-harm and suicide content when London searched for harmless topics… Snapchat teaching her to hide messages… multiple secret accounts… emotional manipulation from streaks and scores… and a child who didn’t understand the permanence of death because of what she saw online.
Charay takes us through London’s hospitalizations, the cries for help, and the night everything changed. Her message is one every parent must hear: This wasn’t London. This was addiction. This was social media.
Today, Charay fights for justice—alongside more than 1,000 families in the national lawsuit against Big Tech—and honors London’s life through a scholarship that empowers teens to make a difference in the world.
This episode is not entertainment.
It’s a warning.
And it will save lives.
You can donate to a scholarship program in London's name, here.

The Heat is On...AI Chatbots
Have AI companies lost control of their bots — or are the bots designed to harm?
In this episode, Sarah Gardner and Nicki Petrossi dive deep into the disturbing rise of AI chatbots gone rogue — and the tragic human cost. From teens who formed emotional bonds with bots that later encouraged suicide, to lawsuits against OpenAI, Character.AI, and others, we expose how Big Tech’s newest frontier of “AI companions” is already devastating families.
You’ll hear how chatbots like Character.AI, ChatGPT, Meta AI, and Snap’s MyAI blurred the lines between fiction and reality, leading kids to isolation, self-harm, and even death. Former tech insiders, grieving parents, and attorneys share evidence that these bots aren’t just broken — they’re built this way.
We ask the urgent questions:
🔥 Are AI companies creating the perfect predator?
🔥 Can this be fixed before more kids are harmed?
🔥 What can parents do right now to protect their children?
This is everything a parent needs to know about chatbots (and more).
The Heat is On is more than a podcast; it's a movement of parents fighting for our children. Be sure to sign up here to join us.
Opportunity to Act: Sign this open letter to Congress asking for specific regulation of AI companions for kids
Resources mentioned in the episode:
- Interview with Character.AI founder Noam Shazeer
- Nearly 1/3 of Americans have had a ‘romantic relationship’ with an AI bot
- NY Times: Inside 3 Long-Term Relationships with AI Chatbots
- 1 in 5 high schoolers say they or someone they know has had a romantic relationship with AI
- Report from Heat Initiative and Parents Together on harmful Character.AI interactions
- JAMA Study: Exploring the behaviors of chatbots in response to adolescent health emergencies
- "An AI chatbot killed my son." with Megan Garcia, mom of Sewell Setzer
- If you or a family member has been harmed, reach out to Social Media Victims Law Center
- Open letter to Congress asking for specific regulation of AI companions for kids
Additional resources at: www.scrolling2death.com/post/the-heat-is-on-ai-chatbots

"If I could go back" | A Mother’s Regret in the Age of Devices (with Titania Jordan)
What happens when a tech-savvy parent — someone who’s been sounding the alarm about online dangers for years — realizes she could have made safer choices for her child?
In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Nicki Petrossi sits down with Titania Jordan, Chief Marketing Officer at Bark Technologies & author of the new book Parental Control— but more importantly, mom to a teenage son — for a raw conversation about regret, resilience, and redefining what it means to protect our kids in the digital age.
Titania opens up about the choices she’d make differently if she could go back: the early video games that seemed harmless, the slow creep of screens becoming the default, and the moment she realized tech had gained more influence in her home than she ever intended. Together, Nicki and Titania unpack the emotional burden parents carry — the shame, the confusion, and the fear that you’re “too late.”
But this isn’t just a cautionary tale. It’s a roadmap and a rallying cry.
You’ll learn:
• The hidden ways tech rewires childhood — and family dynamics
• The warning signs parents often miss when screens start taking over
• How AI and chatbots complicate modern parenting in ways we’re only beginning to understand
• Practical boundary-setting strategies for kids and teens
• Why tech companies must be held legally accountable — and why parents should not shoulder the blame alone
Through honest reflections and hard-earned wisdom, Titania reminds every parent: it's never too late to course-correct. And it's definitely not your fault that billion-dollar companies engineered these tools to be addictive — but it is our collective responsibility to fight back, reshape the narrative, and protect the next generation.
Whether your child is still preschool-age or already a teen with a phone, this episode will leave you more informed, more empowered, and ready to parent with conviction in a world designed to overwhelm you.
Press play to hear a mother’s wake-up call — and find hope, strategy, and solidarity in the struggle we’re all facing.
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Families Sue OpenAI: Claim ChatGPT Drove Children to Suicide, Delusions
This is not a hypothetical. This is not science fiction.
This is happening right now.
Today, multiple families across the U.S. and Canada filed lawsuits against OpenAI, alleging that ChatGPT triggered psychosis, isolated vulnerable users from loved ones, and—even worse—encouraged suicide.
Four families lost their sons.
A 17-year-old. A 23-year-old. A 26-year-old. A 48-year-old.
All believed they were talking to a supportive companion, a lifeline. Instead, they found themselves pulled deeper into darkness.
In this emergency episode, Nicki Petrossi speaks with attorney Laura Marquez-Garrett from the Social Media Victims Law Center about:
- Why these families are blaming ChatGPT
- How a tool used for schoolwork evolved into a psychological companion
- The chilling transcripts from the final hours of 23-year-old Zane Shamblin’s life
- What happens when AI stops saying “I can’t help with that” — and starts saying “I love you, see you on the other side”
This is the conversation tech hoped you wouldn’t hear.
Parents, lawmakers, and educators must listen.
Because if this is the future of AI — no one is safe.

The Heat is On...Apple (Part 2)
In Part 1 of The Heat is On Apple, we exposed how Apple’s ecosystem puts kids at risk — from iMessage to iCloud to the App Store.
In Part 2, we’re asking the only question that matters: What could Apple do to protect children — and how do we get them to do it?
We break down real solutions Apple could deploy tomorrow: device-based age verification, real App Store safeguards, proactive CSAM detection in iCloud, global reporting tools in iMessage, and parental controls that actually work. And we examine the growing pressure forcing Apple’s hand — lawsuits, new laws, global regulators, and parents demanding accountability.
Finally, we share what families can do right now: don’t rely on Apple defaults, consider kid-safe devices, talk to another parent, and get involved in the movement pushing Apple to protect children instead of profits.
Subscribe to The Heat is On movement to receive real action steps you can take to force companies like Apple to do better. Sign up here: https://www.scrolling2death.com/heat
Up next: we turn up the heat on Snapchat. 🔥
Email Apple Leadership: Support our demands of Apple by letting leadership know that you want their products to be safer for kids.
Thank you to our expert guests:
Jonathan Haidt - Author of The Anxious Generation
Paul Raffile - Cyber analyst and sextortion expert
Chris McKenna – Digital safety advocate and founder of Protect Young Eyes
Video Editing by Jacob Meade

The Heat is On Apple: Part 2
In Part 1 of The Heat is On Apple, we exposed how Apple’s ecosystem puts kids at risk — from iMessage to iCloud to the App Store.
In Part 2, we’re asking the only question that matters: What could Apple do to protect children — and how do we get them to do it?
We break down real solutions Apple could deploy tomorrow: device-based age verification, real App Store safeguards, proactive CSAM detection in iCloud, global reporting tools in iMessage, and parental controls that actually work. And we examine the growing pressure forcing Apple’s hand — lawsuits, new laws, global regulators, and parents demanding accountability.
Finally, we share what families can do right now: don’t rely on Apple defaults, consider kid-safe devices, talk to another parent, and get involved in the movement pushing Apple to protect children instead of profits.
Subscribe to The Heat is On movement to receive real action steps you can take to force companies like Apple to do better. Sign up here: https://www.scrolling2death.com/heat
Up next: we turn up the heat on Snapchat. 🔥

AI Nudify Apps Are Targeting Teens — This Mom Is Fighting Back (with Anna McAdams)
On October 1, 2023, one family woke up to every parent’s nightmare — their daughter’s phone was blowing up with messages from friends. Someone had taken innocent photos from her Instagram, run them through an AI app called DNGG, and created fake, nude images that quickly spread through her high school.
This chilling episode of Scrolling 2 Death exposes the disturbing rise of AI-powered nudify apps that can “digitally undress” anyone in seconds. Though DNGG has been taken down, countless others have replaced it.
You'll also learn of the surprising role that Snapchat plays in this story; how Snap completely ignored both the families affected and also police warrants from investigators.
We unpack how these apps work, the devastating emotional impact on victims, and what parents, platforms, and policymakers must do to protect teens from this new form of digital abuse.
Thank you to Anna McAdams for sharing this vulnerable yet empowering story.

The Heat is On...Apple (Part 1)
The Heat is On is a new investigative series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative. Co-hosts Sarah Gardner, Founder and CEO of Heat Initiative, and Nicki Petrossi, Host of Scrolling 2 Death, are exposing the truth Big Tech doesn’t want you to hear – and this episode is all about Apple.
Apple revolutionized personal computing and their products didn’t just change technology — they changed childhood: putting powerful, addictive devices directly in kids’ hands. 88% of teens now own an iPhone.
Apple has convinced us that parental controls keep iPhones and iPads “safe”, but that is an illusion.
In this episode, Sarah and Nicki dig into the core apps and platforms available to children through Apple devices: iMessage, Screen Time, The App Store, and iCloud.
Disclaimer: This episode includes discussion of child sexual abuse and online child exploitation. If you or someone you know is a victim of exploitation, contact the CyberTipline at NCMEC: report.cybertip.org. Or text Hello to 741741 for immediate assistance.
Here's what you can do to put pressure on Apple:
- Sign up for our campaign updates at scrolling2death.com/heat.
- Share this episode with a friend and family member.
- Choose a child-safe device.
In Part 2, you will learn about changes that Apple can make to better protect kids, and how we pressure Apple to act.
Thank you to our expert guests:
Jonathan Haidt - Author of The Anxious Generation
Paul Raffile - Cyber analyst and sextortion expert
Chris McKenna – Digital safety advocate and founder of Protect Young Eyes
Video Editing by Jacob Meade

BREAKING: Character.AI Teen Experience (Progress or PR?)
Today, Character.AI shocked the world by announcing a ban on users under 18 from using its chatbots. But when you read the fine print, the story gets murky. Is this real protection for kids — or another Big Tech PR spin? Nicki Petrossi breaks it down with Sarah Gardner of Heat Initiative and attorney Laura Marquez-Garrett from the Social Media Victims Law Center.
Parents can join us in putting pressure on Big Tech by signing up here: scrolling2death.com/heat

Less Tech, More Teaching: A Superintendent’s Bold Move (with Dr. Mike Swan)
In a world where screens have taken over classrooms, one superintendent decided to push pause. Dr. Mike Swan, leader of Burke County Public Schools, joins us to share how his district took a bold, low-tech approach to learning — and what happened next. From teachers rediscovering the joy of teaching to parents seeing calmer, more focused kids, Dr. Swan opens up about the wins, the backlash, and the lessons learned along the way. This conversation is a roadmap for every community wondering: What if we put education — not technology — back at the center of our schools?
Burke County: A RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING BALANCED INSTRUCTION THROUGH REDUCED SCREEN USE
Tech-Safe Learning: Resources for parents to help engage with your school district
Reach out to Dr. Mike Swan with questions at his email: mswan@burke.k12.nc.us