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David Burda, 4sight Health’s news editor, hosts with commentary from David Johnson, 4sight Health’s CEO, and Julie Murchinson, Partner at Transformation Capital. Join the Customer Revolution!
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Consumer Unrest Over Healthcare Costs Grows
A new consumer poll is out, and it's clear that the public has had it with rising costs for health insurance and medical care. Who are they counting on to fix it? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson share their policy and market takeaways on, “Consumer Unrest Over Healthcare Costs Grows,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

AI Innovation Creates an Interoperability Challenge of Epic Proportions
When EHR vendors, AI tools and interoperability mandates collide, who comes out on top? And how does that outcome affect providers and, more importantly, consumers? David W. Johnson and special guest Robert Pearl, M.D., hashed it all out on, "AI Innovation Creates an Interoperability Challenge of Epic Proportions," a special extended episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Lines Drawn Over Future of AI in Medicine
Physicians only? Artificial intelligence only? Physician-AI hybrid? The lines are being drawn. But who's drawing them and why? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate who makes a better doctor on, “Lines Drawn Over Future of AI in Medicine” a special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Market Power of Epic, AMA Comes Under Fire
The Healthcare Industrial Complex took on fire separately from the Federal Trade Commission and from PatientRightsAdvocate.org over who controls the EHR system market and the medical billing code market. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson weigh the possible outcomes on, “Market Power of Epic, AMA Comes Under Fire,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Government Health Insurance Subsidies: Too Much, Too Little or Just Right?
A new Congressional Budget Office report says the federal government will subsidize health insurance in the U.S. by more than $33 trillion over the next 10 years. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson unpacked what we should expect in return on, “Government Health Insurance Subsidies: Too Much, Too Little or Just Right?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

AI, Productivity and the Future of the Healthcare Workforce
Three new reports are out on the challenges health system leaders will face as they retool their workforce over the next five years. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson identified critical success factors on, “AI, Productivity and the Future of the Healthcare Workforce,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.
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5 Healthcare Headlines We Didn't Expect to See
The healthcare industry makes news every day, some of which we never thought we'd see. But here we are. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson share, “5 Healthcare Headlines We Didn't Expect to See,” and what they say about the direction of the industry on the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Where Hospitals Should Be Investing Your Money
The investment portfolios of not-for-profit hospitals and health systems are growing to record levels. Where should they be putting their money to get the best return for patients now and in the future? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson shared their investment advice for these swelling investment portfolios on “Where Hospitals Should Be Investing Your Money,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Unlocking the Healthcare Market Implications of GLP-1 Drugs
GLP-1 drugs are dominating the healthcare headlines from Medicare's new GLP-1 Bridge demonstration project to the explosion in the number of people using them for more than just weight loss. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson explore the market, policy and population health implications on, “Unlocking the Healthcare Market Implications of GLP-1 Drugs,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Will Rural Health Transformation Grants Pave the Road to Good Health?
States are starting to dole out their share of Rural Health Transformation Program grant money. Whose money will go the furthest in improving the health of rural America? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson chewed on the most effective ideas on, “Will Rural Health Transformation Grants Pave the Road to Good Health?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Restoring Trust in Science, Medicine and Public Health
How do we restore consumer trust in healthcare, trust among healthcare industry segments, and everyone's trust in the government? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate what dials to turn on, “Restoring Trust in Science, Medicine and Public Health,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

AI in Healthcare: Cost Saver or Cost Driver?
David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson take a hard look at the evidence to predict whether the deployment of artificial intelligence in healthcare will increase healthcare costs or lower them on, “AI in Healthcare: Cost Saver or Cost Driver?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Do Hospitals and Health Plans Mix?
Provider-sponsored health plans have been around for years. Has this "pay-vider" business model fulfilled its promise to lower costs and improve outcomes? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson critique their promise and performance on, “Do Hospitals and Health Plans Mix?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Who Should Be Sitting Around Your Board Table?
A new report says health systems are in desperate need of good governance and good governance practices. What will it take to make boards better prepared to deal with the complexities of today's healthcare market? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson share their ideas on, “Who Should Be Sitting Around Your Board Table?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Are AI Chatbots Good for Your Mental Health?
A new study says nearly 20% of teens and young adults are getting mental health advice from AI chatbots, with most users keeping it a secret. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate the health system impact of the growing use of AI chatbots by consumers secretly asking apps for help on, “Are AI Chatbots Good for Your Mental Health?” a special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

It's Not You. It's Your Doctor.
A new report is out that says physicians are leaving clinical practice at a younger age. At the same time, medical school enrollment is at an all-time high. What's going on? David W. Johnson and Julie Murhcinson make it all make sense on, “It's Not You. It's Your Doctor,” a special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Healthcare Revolutionaries On the Move With Chris Johnson
4sight Health profiled Chris Johnson in March 2024. At the time, we described him as an unemployed healthcare entrepreneur. But he left us with this cliffhanger: "We haven’t gone public with what we’re working on. All I can say is it’s focused on the pediatrics space.” And that he did.
Hear our original interview with Johnson and read the update from 4sight Health’s David Burda in Healthcare Revolutionaries on the Move.

A New Health Tech Accelerator for Hospitals. Vroom Vroom! Or Ho Hum?
The American Hospital Association and the West Health Institute launched a new health technology accelerator for hospitals and health systems. Will it make a difference? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson assess the industry impact on, “A New Health Tech Accelerator for Hospitals. Vroom Vroom! Or Ho Hum?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Healthcare Revolutionaries On the Move With Alejandro Quiroga
Welcome to another edition of 4sight Health's Healthcare Revolutionaries On the Move, where we update the latest adventures of our favorite healthcare instigators who believe outcomes matter, customers count and value rules.
4sight Health profiled Alejandro Quiroga, M.D., president of Corewell Health West, the Grand Rapids, Michigan-based division of Corewell Health, in December 2023.
A year after our profile and podcast interview with him, Dr. Quiroga left Corewell to become president and CEO of Children's Mercy Kansas City, a 390-bed children's hospital in Kansas City, Missouri.
He started in his new position in January 2025.
Dr. Quiroga, a pediatric nephrologist, described his move from Corewell to Children's Mercy as "a dream come true."

Will CMS’s New ACCESS Model Push the Right Buttons?
CMS released the names of the first digital health technology vendor cohort for its new model to provide tech-enabled chronic disease management services to Medicare beneficiaries. What will it take to make the program a success? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson revisit the issue on, “Will CMS’s New ACCESS Model Push the Right Buttons,” a special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Let's See If You're On Our MVP Interoperability List
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services released the names of the first cohort of health technology vendors that met HHS' minimum viable product criteria to join its HealthTech Ecosystem. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson want to know, does this first wave signal an interoperability tsunami? We talked about it on, “Let's See If You're On Our MVP Interoperability List,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Competitor, Collaborator or Replacement?
One-third of consumers are using AI chatbots for medical advice, with many people not following up with a human provider. What does that say about consumers, providers and AI? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate on, “Competitor, Collaborator or Replacement?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Healthcare Revolutionaries on the Move With Dan Trigub
4sight Health profiled Dan Trigub, co-founder and CEO of MedArrive, in February 2023. At the time, the New York-based company deployed a network of EMTs and paramedics, dubbed “field providers,” to provide basic healthcare services to people at home.
"As everyone knows, healthcare is incredibly complex — and stubborn. While we proved our model worked and delivered thousands of positive outcomes, the economics of scaling in-home care remained extremely challenging. That forced us to evolve," Trigub said.
Listen to his interview with 4sight Health and see what he's up to now.
https://www.4sighthealth.com/podcast-how-healthcare-revolutionaries-think-with-dan-trigub/

Physician Compensation, Competition and Substitution
New compensation models and new types of licensed practitioners are redefining the market for physician services. Will consumers benefit? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debated the issue on, “Physician Compensation, Competition and Substitution,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Are Healthcare Lobbies Getting Their Money's Worth?
Healthcare industry sectors are spending more on lobbying than ever before. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson discussed the impact on health policy, health innovation and healthcare consumers on, “Are Healthcare Lobbies Getting Their Money's Worth?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Pop Goes the Measles
What can we do to tamp down measles outbreaks and prevent them from breaking the healthcare budget? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson share their ideas on how we can eradicate this latest public health threat on, “Pop Goes the Measles,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Raise Your Hand If You Know Why Medical School Enrollment Is at an All-Time High
More people than ever want to become doctors despite all the challenges posed by today's healthcare system. What's going on? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson offer their explanations on, “Raise Your Hand If You Know Why Medical School Enrollment Is at an All-Time High,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

The Odds of Online Sports Betting Becoming a Public Health Crisis
As if we didn't have enough to worry about, a new piece in JAMA says states need to act now to prevent online sports betting from becoming a big problem. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson break it down on, “The Odds of Online Sports Betting Becoming a Public Health Crisis,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

How Many Healthcare Workers Does It Take...
... do everything? New healthcare jobs are the primary driver of employment growth in the U.S. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson break down the good and bad on, “How Many Healthcare Workers Does It Take to ...” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Breaking PBMs' Hold Over Drug Prices
Pharmacy benefit managers' business practices are under attack from multiple directions. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate whether the new legislative and regulatory actions on pharmacy benefit managers' business practices will make a difference in how much consumers pay for drugs on “Breaking PBMs' Hold Over Drug Prices,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda. Listen.

Tell Me Where It Hurts
David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate market winners and losers from the explosion of AI-powered medical chatbots for consumers on, "Tell Me Where It Hurts," the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda. Listen.

Healthcare Revolutionaries On the Move With Kemena Brooks
Rust never sleeps. Neither do healthcare revolutionaries. Welcome to 4sight Health's new feature, where we update the industry on the latest adventures of our favorite healthcare instigators who believe outcomes matter, customers count and value rules.
4sight Health profiled Kemena Brooks, vice president of real estate development for The Community Builders, in April 2025. Two months later, in June 2025, Brooks became chief of staff of the Chicago Housing Authority.
Read our original profile here: https://www.4sighthealth.com/how-healthcare-revolutionaries-think-10-questions-with-kemena-brooks/
Read our original podcast interview here: https://www.4sighthealth.com/podcast-how-healthcare-revolutionaries-think-with-kemena-brooks/
Watch for future updates of healthcare revolutionaries who are building better healthcare.

Pushing the Right Buttons
What can we do to slow and reverse runaway national health expenditures? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson talk through potential solutions on, “Pushing the Right Buttons,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

The Heartbeat of Primary Care
Primary care is the engine that runs the healthcare system. David W. Johnson and special guest Dr. Robert Pearl, former CEO of the Permanente Medical Group, debate the future of primary care on, “The Heartbeat of Primary Care,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Diagnosing Healthcare 2026
What will rock the healthcare world in 2026? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson predict the trends that will rock the healthcare world in 2026 in this first episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast for the new year, “Diagnosing Healthcare 2026,” moderated by David Burda.

Healthcare 2025. Save As...
Interoperability pledge? AI becomes table stakes? Destruction of the CDC? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson make their case for the biggest healthcare story of the year on, “Healthcare 2025. Save As...” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Connecting Digital Health and Health Outcomes
Will paying doctors to use the latest health technologies to improve the health of seniors with chronic diseases work? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson review Medicare's new chronic care model on, “Connecting Digital Health and Health Outcomes,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Pushing the Right Regulatory Buttons
Should we use regulations to treat the symptoms of healthcare market dysfunction or try to cure its causes? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate on, “Pushing the Right Regulatory Buttons,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Does VC Spending by Academic Medical Centers Check the Right Boxes?
When academic medical centers invest in healthcare companies, who benefits? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate the outcomes on, “Does VC Spending by Academic Medical Centers Check the Right Boxes?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Getting Moms and Babies Off To a Good Start
How is the political climate affecting reproductive services? 4sight Health’s David Burda interviews CEO of LovEvolve and founder of the Whole Person Index Katie Kaney and asks how she and her colleagues are tapping their creativity to combat the maternal mortality crisis. Listen to, “How Healthcare Revolutionaries Think” from 4sight Health.

More Primary Care, Please
A new report says health systems want to expand their primary care footprint. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson discuss health systems' motivations and whether patients will benefit from those expansion plans on, “More Primary Care, Please,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Taking Consumers' Digital Health Pulse
A new poll is out showing consumers' growing use of digital health apps and websites. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate whether providers and health tech companies are picking up signals from consumers that they want more digital health apps and websites on, “Taking Consumers' Digital Health Pulse,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Putting a Finger on Healthcare's Biggest Trends
Trilliant Health is out with its annual report on what’s shaping the health economy. Are they on the nose or off the mark? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson are “Putting a Finger on Healthcare's Biggest Trends” on the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Measuring the ROI of Safe and Effective Care
They say good outcomes are good business in healthcare, but can anyone prove it? David W. Johnson and podcast guest Stephanie Mercado, CEO of the National Association for Healthcare Quality, say it's possible and reveal how it's done on investment in high-quality care on, "Measuring the ROI of Safe and Effective Care," the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Recovering From the CDC's New Vaccine Recommendations
How can the market and providers boost childhood vaccine rates when the CDC under RFK Jr. is discouraging them? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson share what the market and providers can do on, “Recovering from the CDC's New Vaccine Recommendations,” this special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Erasing Enhanced Premium Tax Credits for ACA Health Plans
We’re talking about the tax credits that help people buy health insurance through state and federal health insurance exchanges. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson tell us who wins and who loses in the shutdown showdown on, “Erasing Enhanced Premium Tax Credits for ACA Health Plans,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Medical Practices Making Room for Advanced Practice Clinicians
Medical practices themselves are adding advanced practice clinicians at a record pace. Who are the market winners and losers from this shift in the healthcare workforce? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate the market impact “Medical Practices Making Room for Advanced Practice Clinicians,” on the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Yes, Employers, You Can Do Something About Rising Healthcare Costs
Employers are facing big jumps in employee medical and health insurance costs next year. What can they do to mitigate the increases? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson share their ideas on how employers can counter the projected big increases on, “Yes, Employers, You Can Do Something About Rising Healthcare Costs,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Who Controls the Future of Healthcare Market Competition?
David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate what will happen in the wake of two recent antitrust enforcement policy moves by the Trump administration on “Who Controls the Future of Healthcare Market Competition?” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Come for the Sunshine, Stay for the Polio
With the dismantling of the CDC, who will step up to provide science-based public health guidance to the U.S. and the world? Will it be states? Will it be entrepreneurs? Will it be providers? Will it be foundations? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson speculate on, “Come for the Sunshine, Stay for the Polio,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.