
Kaatscast: the Catskills Podcast
By Silver Hollow Audio


Hoppy Quick: Carving Bears and Living at a Higher Frequency
Hoppy Quick has been chainsaw carving bears in the Catskills since 1979 — but he'll tell you he's not an artist. He's a spiritual being who found himself through the bear.
In this wide-ranging conversation, we visit Hoppy at his home in Samsonville — a converted 1951 school bus, a canvas teepee workshop, a crackling fire ring, and a horse named Ginny — and quickly discover that a conversation about whittling wood leads somewhere much deeper.
We talk about his 47-year search for the perfect bear face, carving as meditation, and what it means to live in grace. Hoppy shares the story behind the Heart Tribe, his COVID-era community of tens of thousands, and reflects on ego, fear, the divine feminine, AI, and why he believes the path forward is exactly 16 inches — from your head to your heart.
As the world seems to be straining at its seams, Hoppy emerges like a bear from the tree line — unexpected, unhurried, and offering a wise and grounding call to our higher selves.

Songs from the Woods: Steve Koester of Two Dark Birds
Singer‑songwriter Steve Koester, the creative force behind Two Dark Birds, joins Brett in the Kaatscast studio for a deep, generous conversation about songwriting, place, and the long arc of making music in the Catskills. With the band’s fifth studio album, Dreamers of the Golden Dream, Vol. 1, arriving February 27, Steve reflects on the evolution of his sound—from full‑band records to quiet, introspective work and back again—and how living in the mountains continues to shape his writing.
Steve shares the origin story of Two Dark Birds, the move from New York City to the Catskills, the band’s shifting lineup, and the role of analog recording in a digital world. He talks about the emotional terrain behind songs like “Born to Fall,” “Good Boy Good,” and “Kid, I’m Fried,” and performs several tracks live in the studio.
The conversation also explores the realities of releasing music in 2026, the joys and limits of streaming platforms, the resurgence of vinyl, and the creation of Steve’s independent label, Vfib Records.
Music Featured
“Born to Fall” — live in studio
“Good Boy Good” — from Dreamers of the Golden Dream, Vol. 1
“Kid, I’m Fried” — live in studio
“Girl of Summer” — album track (closing)
Links & Resources
Two Dark Birds — https://twodarkbirds.com
Vfib Recordings — https://www.vfibrecordings.com
The Woods Studio (Todd Adelman) — https://thewoods.studio
Bearsville Theater — https://bearsvilletheater.com
Photo credit: Sam Erickson

Tasting Italy with Pogliani Select, Purveyors of Olive Oil & Balsamic
In this episode, we visit Pogliani Select, purveyors of artisanal, estate‑grown olive oils and aged balsamic vinegars sourced directly from small family farms across Italy and Croatia. From the hills of Tuscany and the groves along the Adriatic to a tasting room in the Catskills, we explore how these Old‑World traditions travel across continents — and why the craft behind them matters.
This conversation is part tasting, part education, and part journey into the people, places, and practices that shape truly exceptional oils and balsamics.
What We Cover
🫒 The origins of Pogliani Select and how they curate estate‑grown oils and balsamics
🫒 What “estate‑grown” and “small‑batch” actually mean — and why they matter
🫒 How to taste olive oil and balsamic like a pro
🫒 Why the Catskills are a natural home for a Mediterranean tasting experience
🫒 Stories from the Italian and Croatian producers behind the bottles
🫒 How education shapes Pogliani Select’s mission as purveyors
🫒 Tips for choosing and using high‑quality oils and balsamics at home
About Pogliani Select
Pogliani Select partners directly with multi‑generation family farms, importing oils and balsamics that reflect place, tradition, and meticulous craft. Their mission blends purveying with educating — helping people understand not just what they’re tasting, but the heritage behind it.
Takeaway
This episode is an invitation to slow down, taste with intention, and appreciate the craftsmanship behind oils and balsamics that carry centuries of tradition — now poured and shared in the Catskills.
Cover image credit: Meigan Arnone

Casting Stories: Nick Lyons on Fishing and Writing
In this special long‑form conversation, Brett Barry sits down with legendary angler‑writer and publisher Nick Lyons, now 93, whose life has been shaped by water, words, and the Catskills. From a childhood spent catching frogs for pocket money to founding one of the most influential fishing imprints in America, Nick’s story is a rare blend of grit, curiosity, and literary devotion.
Recorded in Nick’s home in Woodstock, this episode traces his journey from the Bronx to the Beaverkill, from boarding school loneliness to the rhythms of trout streams, from early rejections to a flourishing writing and publishing career. Along the way, Nick reflects on family, loss, love, teaching, and the deep satisfactions of a life lived close to rivers.
In This Episode
Growing up in the Bronx with Yiddish‑speaking grandparents and bachelor uncles
Boarding school memories and discovering fishing at Ice Pond
Summers at the Laurel House in Haines Falls — frogs, creeks, and Catskills lore
Seeing the Hindenburg fly overhead as a child
A difficult stepfather and moves from Mount Vernon to Brooklyn
The Army years and the beginnings of serious reading
Falling in love with literature at the New School, Bard, and the University of Michigan
Meeting Mari — art, shyness, and a life partnership
Early writing struggles and a breakthrough with Field & Stream
Finding his voice: earthy, nimble, wry, and rooted in lived experience
Fishing the Catskills — rhythms, hatches, freestone rivers, and memory
Why salmon fishing never clicked
Teaching for decades while building a parallel career in publishing
Reviving classic fishing literature and launching The Lyons Press
The rise of Sportsman’s Classics and the explosion of modern fly‑fishing writing
Why he eventually stopped fishing and what he misses most
Nick Lyons is one of the most influential figures in American angling literature — but his story is far larger than fishing. It’s about reinvention, persistence, and the way a life can be shaped by curiosity and attention. This episode captures a voice that is warm, reflective, and still sharp with humor and insight.
Links & References
Nick Lyons’s memoir Fire in the Straw
Nick's presentation at the Jerry Bartlett Angling Collection

Small Town Papers, Big Digital Archive: NYS Historic Newsapers
New York State Historic Newspapers Project with Chuck Henry
Episode Overview
Dive into the largest state newspaper archive in the country! Chuck Henry, Project Lead for New York State Historic Newspapers, takes us through this incredible digital repository containing over 1,200 newspaper titles, 1.5 million editions, and more than 15 million pages—all available free of charge.
Guest
Chuck Henry
IT Coordinator, Northern New York Library Network
Project Lead, New York State Historic Newspapers
What You'll Learn
🗞️ How the project transformed microfilm archives into a searchable digital collection
🗞️ The breadth of the collection: from 1725 to 2025, covering all 62 New York counties
🗞️ Tips and tricks for searching the database effectively
🗞️ Why this matters for genealogists, historians, students, and curious locals
🗞️ The difference between this free public resource and commercial databases
🗞️ How libraries and historical societies can get their collections digitized
Key Topics Discussed
📰 The Problem with Microfilm
📰 Chuck explains why libraries desperately needed a better solution than basement microfilm readers and hours of manual searching.
📰 Building the Archive
📰 Started in 2004 as Northern New York Historic Newspapers
📰 Expanded statewide in 2014
📰 Now adds approximately 500,000 new pages every year
📰 Second largest freely available newspaper archive in the U.S. (behind Library of Congress)
What's in the Collection
⌨️ 1,200+ newspaper titles from across New York State
⌨️ Earliest: New York Gazette (February 1725)
⌨️ Most recent: Freeport High School newspaper (June 2025)
⌨️ Includes Catskills papers like the Catskill Mountain News, Delaware County Dairyman, Gilboa Monitor, and Callicoon Local Record
⌨️ Multiple languages: English, German, Spanish, Italian, Gaelic, and Native languages
Search Tips from the Expert
🖱️Start with county-based browsing using the interactive map
🖱️Use Boolean search operators and quotation marks for precise results
🖱️Try alternative spellings for older papers with imperfect OCR
🖱️Browse by specific dates to see multiple newspapers' coverage of historical events
🖱️Create a free account to save searches and make notes
Who Uses It
👉 Genealogists researching births, deaths, marriages, and property transfers
👉 Amateur and professional historians
👉 Students from K-12 through university level
👉 Authors and journalists
👉 Local communities preserving their heritage
The Process
Libraries and historical societies can submit their collections
Funding often available through Empire State Library Network councils
Scanning done in-house in Potsdam, NY
OCR technology makes everything searchable
Original microfilm preserved as permanent backup
Notable Finds Mentioned
Desperate fight with a bear (Stanford Mirror, 1876)
Bootleg liquor tragedy (Delaware Republican, 1926)
Restaurant ads from the 1970s
The "Spiedie Sandwich" historical marker project
Copyright and Access
Content pre-1920s is public domain
1920s-1960s content varies by copyright status
Post-1960s content requires written permission
Everything available free of charge—no paywalls or subscriptions
Resources
New York State Historic Newspapers
Get Involved
Libraries and historical societies can contact the Northern New York Library Network about digitization services
Create a free account to save searches and research
Optional monthly newsletter available
🎙️ Production Credits
Kaatscast is a biweekly production of Silver Hollow Audio
Host, producer: Brett Barry
Transcription: Jerome Kazlauskas
More at kaatscast.com
Sponsored by The Mountain Eagle
Mystery Bonus
Do you know where the Mountain Eagle's missing archives are? Previous owners either destroyed them or the microfilm is languishing in an undisclosed ... basement? Contact the show if you have leads!

Prescribed Fire 🔥 for Forest Health and Biodiversity
Prescribed Fire in the Catskills: Restoring a Lost Tool
In this episode, Brett sits down once again with Ryan Trapani, Director of Forest Services at the Catskill Forest Association, to explore the surprising ecological value of prescribed fire in the Northeast.
Recorded fireside at the Kaatscast studio, this conversation digs into the science, history, and cultural memory of fire in the Catskills, and why small, carefully managed burns may be key to healthier forests, richer wildlife habitat, and a more resilient landscape.
Key Topics
Why fire disappeared from Northeastern land management — and why that’s a problem
How Indigenous communities shaped ecosystems with fire
What “pyrogenic species” like oak and chestnut need to thrive
The Catskill Forest Association’s new prescribed burn program
How controlled burns can improve wildlife habitat and biodiversity
The challenges of permits, insurance, and public perception
What early‑successional habitat is — and why we’re losing it
Lessons from the Albany Pine Bush and Shawangunk Ridge
About the CFA Prescribed Burn Program
Ryan outlines CFA’s cautious, incremental approach to reintroducing fire on private lands — starting with low‑complexity field burns, building community familiarity, and navigating the regulatory and insurance landscape. The goal: restore a long‑missing tool to the Catskills’ silvicultural toolbox.

Retro Rentals: Defying the Algorithm at Sleepover Trading
In this episode of Kaatscast, Brett visits Sleepover Trading Company in Catskill, New York—a new video rental shop rebuffing the algorithmic grip of streaming platforms by reviving the analog joy of VHS tapes, comic books, and sleepover culture. Owners Rob Ribar and Guido Sanchez share how their passion for collecting movies, comics, and memorabilia evolved into a retro storefront in the historic Catskill Community Theater.
Together, they explore the legacy of Video Visions, a beloved Chatham video store whose 20,000‑title collection now lives on at Sleepover Trading. Along the way, they reflect on the lost art of browsing shelves, the freedom of discovery beyond algorithms, and the nostalgia of sleepovers filled with horror flicks, trading cards, and late‑night laughter.
Highlights:
The VHS revival: Why physical tapes still matter in an era of disappearing streaming titles.
Video Visions legacy: Preserving Steve Campbell’s 20,000‑movie collection as a living library.
Sleepover culture: Comics, toys, trading cards, and the perfect mix of nostalgia.
Analog over algorithms: How human curation fosters true discovery.
Community connections: From flea markets to local artists, building Catskill’s movie hub.
Lost media preservation: Taped‑off‑TV VHS archives, commercials, and forgotten gems.
Membership perks: Rentals without late fees, access to rare titles, and even VCR equipment.
Links:
Sleepover Trading Company: https://linktr.ee/sleepovertradingco
Video Visions (documentary): https://youtu.be/6h3VvS5N8g0

Gifting the Catskills: Vintage Finds at Catskill Collectibles
In this episode of Kaatscast, host Brett Barry visits Catskill Collectibles, a unique shop in Catskill, NY, curated by Tom Illari. The shop specializes in Catskills memorabilia, blending new creations with rare vintage items going back to the 19th century. Tom shares his journey from a finance career to running the shop and his lifelong passion for the Catskills, highlighted by his extensive personal collection of historical items. Brett and Tom chat about the nuanced relationship between the village of Catskill and the broader Catskills region, the resurgence of the area as a vacation destination, and the evolving interests of collectors and tourists alike.
00:00 Introduction to Catskill Collectibles
01:21 Tom Illari's Journey to Catskill
03:01 The Origins of Catskill Collectibles
04:57 From Personal Collection to Business
07:53 Expanding the Shop's Offerings
09:03 Showcasing Unique Vintage Items
15:38 The Community and Local Collaborations
16:56 Tom's Lifelong Connection to the Catskills
18:27 The Resurgence of the Catskills
19:22 Challenges and Future of Vintage Collecting
20:15 Customer Demographics and Shop Dynamics
21:46 Reflections and Future Plans
22:46 Holiday Shopping and Popular Items
23:35 Local Pronunciations and Community Insights
24:46 Catskill's Vibrant Main Street
26:42 Tom's Favorite Memories and Nature's Draw
28:19 How to Visit Catskill Collectibles
29:55 Conclusion and Podcast Information

Snow Surveyors: Community Contributions to Climate Science
Measuring Snow: Citizen Science in the Catskills
Summary: Winter in the Catskills isn’t just about skiing, sledding, or shoveling. Snowpack plays a critical role in our water resources, local economies, and even global climate regulation. In this episode, Brett Barry speaks with Dr. Marco Tedesco of Columbia University’s Lamont‑Doherty Earth Observatory, about the NASA‑funded X‑Snow Project — a citizen science initiative inviting volunteers to measure, photograph, and collect snow data across the region.
Together, they explore how local observations help validate satellite models, improve climate predictions, and build community engagement around environmental stewardship.
🎙️ Episode Highlights
Snow as a climate regulator: Why reflective snowpack matters for Earth’s energy balance.
Citizen science superheroes: How everyday volunteers contribute to NASA‑funded research.
Snowpack vs. snow depth: Understanding SWE (snow water equivalent) and why density matters.
Local impacts: Shorter winters, more rain events, and what that means for Catskills tourism, groundwater, and flood risk.
Microplastics in snow: Emerging research on contaminants entering our water systems.
Community partnerships: The Catskill Center’s role in training and outreach.
How to get involved: Simple Tier‑1 measurements with nothing more than a ruler, or level up to advanced lab sampling.
📌 Resources & Links
Learn more or volunteer: x‑snow.us
Resources and supplies: catskillsvisitorcenter.org
Full episode archive: kaatscast.com

Before the Catskills: Gilboa’s Fossil Forest
Did you know the Catskill region was once tropical—and south of the equator?! In this episode, Brett Barry visits the Gilboa Museum and Juried History Center to explore one of the oldest fossilized forests on Earth. Education Chair Kristen Wyckoff shares her decades-long passion for paleobotany, the story behind Gilboa’s world-famous Devonian tree stumps, and discoveries unearthed during the Schoharie Reservoir construction, dam restoration, and creek bed fossil hunts.
From lungfish and sea scorpions to the mysterious “snake tree,” we dig into the prehistoric past of upstate New York and learn how mud, minerals, and mural magic preserve a forest that predates the Catskills themselves.
🪨 Highlights
🌴 Gilboa’s tropical past—when the region was south of the equator
🦴 Fossil discoveries during Schoharie Reservoir construction
🎨 Kristen’s murals and museum exhibits
📚 A children’s book adventure through the Devonian
🐟 Sea creatures, spore trees, and sedimentary surprises
🏛️ How a generous hometown alum helped build a fossil-focused museum complex
🔗 Resources
Visit the museum: gilboafossils.org
Kristen Wyckoff’s children’s book: Dennis’s Devonian Adventure
Learn more: The Catskill Fossil Forest by Stein, Hernick, and Mannolini
📍 Broadcast Info
Kaatscast is now broadcasting a public radio edition! Saturdays at 11 AM on WJFF Radio Catskill (90.5 FM). Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and follow us on Instagram @kaatscast.

Front Line Neighbors: Volunteer Firefighting in Margaretville and the Catskills
🎙️ Neighbors on the Front Lines: Margaretville FD and the Spirit of Catskills Volunteerism
Episode Description: In this episode of Kaatscast, we head to Margaretville, New York, where volunteer firefighters train for blitz attacks—a high-volume water technique used to knock down fires fast. But this story goes beyond the hose line. It’s about community, commitment, and declining volunteerism nationwide.
With over 90% of New York’s fire departments staffed by volunteers, towns like Margaretville rely on neighbors—teachers, shopkeepers, reporters, and retirees—to respond when disaster strikes. Hear from training officer Jon Schebesta and longtime volunteers like Nate Hendricks, Lissa Harris, and others, as they share personal stories, challenges in recruitment, and the evolving role of fire departments in rural life.
From floods to flames, prop windows to real emergencies, this episode honors the people who show up—when the siren sounds in the middle of dinner.
Topics Covered:
Blitz attack training and deck gun drills
Declining volunteerism in rural communities
Personal stories from Margaretville FD members
Emergency response beyond firefighting
Roles for volunteers of all backgrounds
Funding and equipment in rural departments
Location: Margaretville Fire Department, Catskills, NY
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Watch the short documentary, Growing Up Catskills, featuring Phoenicia's Gene Gormley: https://vimeo.com/224535275

The Last of the Handmade Dams Turns 40: Bob Steuding Reflects
In 1985, Bob Steuding published The Last of the Handmade Dams: The Story of the Ashokan Reservoir, a historically rich account of the building of the Ashokan Reservoir—and the lives displaced in its wake. Forty years later, the book remains a cornerstone of Catskills regional history and the inaugural title from Purple Mountain Press.
In this episode, we visit Bob and Martha Steuding at their 18th-century stone farmhouse near the reservoir. Literary correspondent Rebecca Rego Barry sits down with Bob to reflect on a life rooted in place, the founding of Purple Mountain Press, and the emotional legacy of a dam that reshaped a landscape—and the lives within it.

Chasing the Grid with Barefoot Hiker Ken Posner
Ken Posner is an ultrarunner, barefoot hiker, and challenge-seeker whose latest book, Chasing the Grid, chronicles his quest to summit 35 Catskill high peaks in every month—a challenge known as “The Grid.” That’s 420 climbs, through every season, in pursuit of something deeper than endurance.
In this episode, Ken shares how the experience became a spiritual journey, shaped by minimalism, transcendentalist thinking, and a deep connection to the land.
Available now 📚 Chasing the Grid: An Ultrarunner's Physical and Spiritual Journey in Pursuit of the Ultimate Mountain Challenge
⌨️ Barefoot Ken on the web

Joining the Journey: a Catskill 3500 Club Hike with Michael Bongar 🥾
In this episode, Brett hits the trail with longtime Catskill 3500 Club member (and current president) Michael Bongar for a hike to Southwest Hunter Mountain—one of the club’s required peaks and a rite of passage for aspiring members.
Founded in 1962, the Catskill 3500 Club encourages hikers to summit 33 peaks over 3,500 feet—plus four of them again in winter. But it’s more than a checklist. Through trail maintenance, education, and conservation advocacy, the club fosters a deep connection to the Catskills.
Michael shares stories from decades of hiking, reflects on the club’s evolution, and—yes—recounts his time as a professional clown, offering a surprisingly poignant parallel between performance and trail camaraderie. From herd paths to canisters, elevation gain to ethics, this episode is a love letter to the mountains and the community that keeps them wild.
Catskill 3500 Club: https://www.catskill3500club.org
New York-New Jersey Trail Conference Trail-A-Thon 2025: http://bit.ly/gotrailathon

Conservation Spotlight: the Catskill Center's 3.6 Acre Add at Platte Clove
🎙 Platte Clove Preserve: A Small Parcel with Big Impact Presented by Kaatscast: The Catskills Podcast
Host Brett Barry visits the Platte Clove Preserve with Jeff Senterman and Kali Bird of the Catskill Center to explore the surprising significance of a newly acquired 3.6-acre parcel. Though small in size, this land plays a vital role in preserving wilderness access, ecological integrity, and the scenic character of the Catskills. The episode also reflects on Jeff and Kali’s 10-year journey with the Catskill Center and its evolving role in advocacy, stewardship, and community engagement.
🔗 Resources & Mentions
• Catskill Center – catskillcenter.org
• Hanford Mills Museum – hanfordmills.org
• Briars & Brambles Books – briarsandbramblesbooks.com
• Mountain Eagle News – mountaineaglenews@gmail.com
🎧 Credits
Producer/Host: Brett Barry
Guests: Jeff Senterman & Kali Bird
Transcript: Jerome Kazlauskas
Announcements: Campbell Brown
Production: Silver Hollow Audio
More info: kaatscast.com | Instagram: @kaatscast

OSI’s Blue Hill Deal: 3,100 Acres of Forest and Stream Protected
Adjacent to the Willowemoc Wild Forest, in the Sullivan Catskills, a 3100-acre parcel once eyed for development is now safeguarded for future generations. In this episode, we chronicle the Open Space Institute’s landmark deal, and potentially the largest acquisition for the Catskills in nearly 25 years.
From the quiet negotiations with landowners to the sweeping implications for climate resilience and watershed health, this episode dives deep into what makes Blue Hill so important to the region.
Key highlights include:
Behind-the-scenes details on how OSI’s team identified and secured the property
The role of Blue Hill in protecting coldwater streams critical to downstream communities
A look back at Blue Hill’s brushes with development, including a ski resort derailed by liquor restrictions
What the public can expect in terms of access, trails, and community engagement
Reflections on regional conservation wins and what they signal for the future
Hear from Tom Gravel, OSI's Northeast Project Manager, and Charlie Burgess, OSI’s Northern NY Stewardship Manager about OSI's strategic land acquisitions—and how they are advancing New York’s commitment to conserve 30% of its lands and waters by 2030 under the state’s 30x30 initiative.

The Art of Emily Cole: From Porcelain to Tattoo
How does the botanical elegance of a 19th-century artist find new life in contemporary design?
In this episode of Kaatscast: The Catskills Podcast, host Brett Barry follows the enduring influence of Emily Cole—daughter of Hudson River School painter Thomas Cole—whose delicate hand-painted ceramics helped define her artistic legacy. Cole was a founding member of the New York Society of Ceramic Arts in 1892, and she advocated for china painting to be recognized as fine art. Her floral porcelain was “highly prized and much sought after,” admired for its lifelike detail and expressive form.
In a special pop-up collaboration, tattoo artist Kelsey Lue brought Cole’s botanical watercolors—on exhibit at the Thomas Cole National Historic Site—into a new medium. Clients at Hummingbird Tattoo were invited to choose from Emily Cole–inspired designs, bridging past and present through artistic interpretation.
The exhibit, titled EMILY COLE: Ceramics, Flora & Contemporary Responses, is on view at the Thomas Cole National Historic Site from May 3 to November 2, 2025.
Featuring insights from curator Amanda Malmstrom and moments from the tattoo chair, this episode celebrates Emily Cole’s creative spirit and the artists who continue her legacy through reimagined design.
Guests:
Kelsey Lue – Tattoo artist, Hummingbird Tattoo
Amanda Malmstrom – Associate Curator, Thomas Cole National Historic Site
Jaime Pedersen – Tattoo client
Links:
Hummingbird Tattoo: https://www.hummingbirdtattoo.com
Thomas Cole National Historic Site (Emily Cole exhibit): https://thomascole.org
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Rooted in the Catskills: Tree Advice from the CFA
Is leaving the woods alone really the best way to preserve them? According to forester Ryan Trapani of the Catskill Forest Association, “doing nothing” comes with hidden costs—and a whole lot of shade-loving trees. In this immersive forest consultation, Ryan pays a visit to host Brett Barry's property to explore hands-on stewardship, the limits of laissez-faire ecology, and the surprising power of sunlight in shaping forest health.
In this episode:
How to spot hazard trees before they fall (and cost you)
Why “doing nothing” might be the worst forest strategy
Tree-for-tree advice on pruning, spacing, and crop tree management
Sunlight as a limiting factor in Catskill forest health
Tips for invasive pest management: ash decline & hemlock woolly adelgid
CFA’s hands-on services, from mushroom inoculation to apple grafting
Plus, hear Ryan’s reflections on 700+ episodes of From the Forest radio—and learn how CFA’s independent, community-driven model helps landowners steward their properties with purpose.
More info: 🌿 catskillforest.org 📡 CFA’s radio show: fromtheforest.podbean.com
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Walking the Long Path: From Manhattan to the Catskills
Sure, you can drive from NYC to the Catskills in just under 3 hours. But as "Doobby," the taxi driver in Planes, Trains and Automobiles says, "You don't see nothing on the interstate but interstate." In this episode, host Brett Barry walks with Casey Kelbaugh on a stretch of the "Long Path," a 358-mile trail from the George Washington Bridge in New York City to the edge of the Adirondack Park. Casey recounts his 27-day hike from East 4th Street in Manhattan to his cabin in the Catskills via the Long Path, an experience he then shared in the travel section of the New York Times.
00:00 Introduction to the Catskills Voyage
00:15 Discovering the Long Path
00:52 Sponsors and Supporters
01:30 Casey's Journey Begins
02:18 Hiking the Long Path
05:40 Challenges and Reflections
13:16 Community and Connections
26:02 The Final Stretch
29:19 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview

Dana Cudmore Digs into the History of Howe Caverns and Cave Country
Exploring Howes Cave: History, Tragedy, and Tourism
Historian and author Dana Cudmore, a former tour guide and current chronicler of Howes Cave, Howe Caverns, and Schoharie County's "Cave Country," gives us a lay of the land and recalls the oft-repeated question, " Anybody ever die down here?"
Cudmore recounts in his 2024 book, The Cave Electrician’s Widow: The Tragedy at Howe Caverns & Dramatic Courtroom Fight for Justice, the story of two Howe Caverns employees who tragically asphyxiated in response to a nearby dynamite blast on April 24, 1930. The conversation describes the events of that tragic day, as well as the continuing allure and industrial significance of the caves and surrounding area.
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00:00 Introduction: The Popular Question
00:16 History of Howe Caverns
02:04 Touring Cave Country
03:18 Lester Howe's Discovery of Howe Caverns
06:20 Secret Caverns and Fraternal Rivalries
11:17 The 1930 Tragedy
21:56 Modern-Day Mining in Howes Cave
22:52 Conclusion and Author's Reflections

Hobart Book Village and Don Dales' Novel Approach to Rural Revival
This episode of Kaatscast features an interview with Don Dales, a key figure in transforming Hobart, New York, into Hobart Book Village. The journey began with a single bookstore in a declining village and expanded into a book lovers' destination with seven bookstores, the Book Village Inn & Bar, and annual events, attracting visitors from far and wide. Dales discusses the initial challenges, community resistance, and the eventual success that turned Hobart into a thriving literary hub in The Catskills' Delaware County.
00:00 Introduction to Hobart Book Village
00:24 The History of Hobart and Its Bookstores
01:58 Interview with Don Dales
06:21 The Decline and Revival of Hobart
10:18 The Book Village Concept Takes Shape
17:19 The Impact of Media and Future Prospects
23:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

1825! Baseball ⚾️ Hamden 🗞️ and a Page in History
In this episode, Captain Drewski of the Delhi Polecats, formerly known as the Delhi Vintage Baseball Club, joins us to discuss the revival of vintage baseball in Delaware County, New York.
Drewski shares the historical significance of a 200-year-old baseball challenge documented in an 1825 edition of the Delaware Gazette, marking the earliest recorded organized game of baseball in the United States. The Hamden 9, as part of the town's bicentennial celebrations, continue the tradition of playing baseball by 1800s rules using period-accurate attire and equipment. For more on Hamden, NY's bicentennial celebration, head over to hamden1825.org.
Tune in to learn more about the history, teams, and events that honor this unique variation of America's pastime; plus, an investigation into the claim that a Catskills paper was the very first to put a baseball game in print!
For even more, check out an episode we produced in 2021 with the M.A.C.'s Collin "Stumpy" Miller during spring practice on Creamery Field in Bovina, NY.
00:00 Introduction to Vintage Baseball in Delaware County
01:00 Meet the Hamden 9: A New Vintage Baseball Team
01:32 The Historical Significance of 1825 in Hamden
02:03 Sponsorship and Support for Vintage Baseball
02:40 Formation and Growth of the Delhi Polecats
06:10 The Unique Charm of Vintage Baseball
06:51 Debating the Origins of Baseball
07:57 The 1825 Baseball Challenge in Hamden
09:12 Celebrating Hamden's Bicentennial
13:24 The Rise of Vintage Baseball in the Catskills
18:22 Upcoming Events and Invitations
19:14 Listener Feedback and Conclusion

Girl Gotta Hike with "Click" 📸 feat. Olivia Sippel
This episode explores an overnight camping trip led by Melissa Goodwin, a licensed guide and founder of 'Girl Gotta Hike,' aimed at encouraging women to connect with the outdoors. Olivia Sippel, our production intern, shares her first camping experience in the Catskills, guided by Melissa, also known by her trail name 'Click.' The story delves into how Melissa's passion for hiking evolved, and the creation of her hiking service, with a focus on women and accessibility. The episode highlights their journey, history and insights from the Appalachian Trail, and the impact of outdoor adventures on personal growth.
00:00 Introduction to Public Transit Hiking
00:44 Olivia's First Camping Experience
01:23 Melissa's Trail Name and Appalachian Trail Journey
04:38 Signing In and Exploring the Trail
07:56 Trail Lunch and Devil's Path
10:53 The Birth of Girl Gotta Hike
24:36 Conclusion and Reflections
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Bobcats and Bird Flu: Research Insights Emerging from Cornell
Kaatscast spoke with Cornell University researchers about their latest investigations into New York State bobcat population abundance and the discovery of avian influenza (bird flu) in these wild felines.
Featuring Jenny Bloodgood, a wildlife veterinarian, and Haley Turner, a Cornell graduate student, the podcast explores their collaborative efforts to assess bobcat abundance and health using GPS collar tagging and camera trap stations. The discussion highlights various diseases affecting bobcats, including avian influenza, which has been detected in several sampled animals. The conversation also touches on historical challenges faced by bobcats, conservation efforts, and the implications of their findings for wildlife management.
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00:00 Introduction to Bobcat Research
01:41 Meet the Researchers
04:35 Bobcat Population History
05:41 Research Methods and Findings
12:43 Health and Disease in Bobcats
17:09 Impact of Avian Influenza
29:30 Human Influence and Conservation
37:21 Conclusion and Future Research
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Cover photo courtesy of Joshua Twining

Catskill Fungi and Our Magical World of Mushrooms 🍄
Exploring the Magical World of Mushrooms with Catskill Fungi's John Michelotti
In this episode of Kaatscast, host Brett Barry interviews John Michelotti, mushroom maven and founder of Catskill Fungi. John draws listeners into the enchanting and complex world of fungi, sharing his journey from an outdoor guide to becoming an enthusiastic mycology educator. Recorded at Catskill Fungi's commercial kitchen in Pine Hill, the episode delves into the life cycle of mushrooms, their ecological roles, cultivation methods, and the mysteries of mycelium. John discusses the various types of mushrooms found in the Catskills, including edible, poisonous, and even mind-altering varieties. The episode also highlights the health benefits of mushroom extracts from varieties like Reishi, Lion's Mane, and Chaga. John is one one of the Catskill Center's "50 Stewards of the Catskills." Oh, and he's a super "fun-guy." Mwah-ha-ha!
00:00 Introduction to Seasonal Mushrooms
00:26 Meet John Michelotti: The Mushroom Maven
01:37 The Journey to Mushroom Mastery
05:55 Understanding Fungi and Mycelium
08:43 The Ecological Role of Fungi
16:51 Mushroom Cultivation Techniques
18:58 Edible and Toxic Mushrooms
23:57 Mushroom Identification and Walks
24:41 Mushroom Foraging Adventures
25:17 Fungi Cultivation Workshops
25:57 Diversity of Edible Mushrooms
26:19 Mushroom Production in the US
27:36 Identifying Edible and Poisonous Mushrooms
29:14 Psychedelic Mushrooms in the Catskills
32:03 Processing Mushrooms into Extracts
38:26 Health Benefits of Mushroom Extracts
44:23 Conclusion and Contact Information

Inside Ulster County's Archives • with Eddie Moran and Jonathan Palmer
Newly appointed Ulster County historian Eddie Moran discusses the role of a municipal historian and emphasizes the importance of presenting a complete and accurate history that includes all groups, with one such focus on the indigenous Lenape people. Moran, a SUNY New Paltz graduate and descendant of the region's Huguenot and Dutch colonists, shares his experiences working with various local organizations to expand the historical narrative. The episode also features a tour of the Ulster County Hall of Records led by archivist Jonathan Palmer, exploring the extensive archival collections and discussing the preservation and digitization efforts.
00:00 Introduction and Context
00:27 Meet Eddie Moran: Ulster County's New Historian
01:38 Eddie's Journey and Passion for History
06:55 The Role and Responsibilities of a County Historian
10:54 Challenges and Goals in Historical Narratives
16:50 Exploring the Ulster County Hall of Records
19:34 Preserving History: Techniques and Challenges
27:38 Significant Historical Documents and Their Stories
38:55 Conclusion and Credits
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Audio recording by Izzy Schuyler
Behind-the-scenes video by Ruby Zuckerman

The Overlook: Community Journalism for 6 Catskills Towns 🗞️
The Overlook, a new nonprofit newspaper, describes itself as "community journalism serving Hunter, Hurley, Olive, Saugerties, Shandaken and Woodstock."
At a time when newspapers in America are disappearing at a rate of about 2.5 per week, The Overlook is attempting to buck that trend with community coverage and investigative reporting, served up weekly, in a free subscription model.
Join us for a conversation with its inaugural Editor-in-chief, Noah Eckstein, who's taking the lead in shaping a promising new publication in a part of the Catskills where news coverage is sparse.
Listen to the end, where we hear from 3 Kaatscast listeners who called in with reaction to our last show, "Wireless Watershed," about major communications gaps in the region.
Please keep in touch, at kaatscast.com, and on Instagram: @kaatscast

Wireless Watershed 📶 NYC's Initiative to Connect the Catskills
In a new effort to enhance communications in the Catskills, the New York City Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) is partnering with New York's ConnectALL initiative to expand wireless and broadband access throughout the New York City watershed.
The initiative was motivated by operational challenges faced by DEP staff due to poor cell coverage, and a recent Request for Information (RFI) seeks input from telecommunications providers and other stakeholders on how to eliminate cell phone dead zones.
In this episode, DEP Commissioner Rohit "Rit" Aggarwala and Water Supply Deputy Commissioner Paul Rush join host Brett Barry for a discussion about the RFI; why a robust communications network is increasingly crucial; and how a network could be built to benefit everyone in the region.
To put the complicated NYC/Catskills relationship into context, we check in with Lize Mogel––producer of the podcast series, Views from the Watershed––for a fascinating historical perspective.
We also hear from local Town Clerk Joyce Grant, whose anecdotal evidence illustrates just how dangerous cellular dead zones can be in the remote Catskills, where land lines and cable internet can also be scarce. Grant is frustrated by what she characterizes as a minority of residents who are opposed to cell towers marring the mountain landscape.
Referring to a proposal for a tower to be built in Shandaken, she says, "It's going to be a pole that's 85 feet tall, and it may be viewable above the trees... but it's a pole... that could save lives. We have to look at it like that."
For more than a century, the Catskills have provided New York City with billions of gallons of clean drinking water. Will NYC be the unlikely partner that –– finally –– brings wireless coverage to the Catskills?
00:00 Intro
00:26 NYC DEP's Wireless Communication Initiative
01:44 Joyce Grant's Pursuit for Better Communication
07:17 Challenges of Cell Service in the Catskills
10:34 Community Efforts and Future Plans
15:12 The Catskills and NYC Water Connection
16:15 The "Takings" and Eminent Domain
19:06 The 1990s MOA and Water Quality
23:29 Controversial Land Acquisition Program
24:24 City's Land Ownership and Broadband Infrastructure
24:56 New York City's Evolving Relationship with the Catskills
25:37 DEP's Land Purchase Strategy
27:46 Recreation and Utility Easements on City Land
29:11 Challenges and Opportunities for Broadband Expansion
32:06 Future of Wireless Communications in the Catskills
34:41 Funding and Implementation of Broadband Project
36:22 Historical Context and Technological Evolution
38:50 Public Engagement and Relationship Building
43:42 Climate Change and Water Supply
45:36 Personal Reflections and Memories of the Catskills
49:37 Conclusion and Podcast Information

Tapping Into Black History: Peg Leg Bates *LIVE* Special 🎙️
Exploring the Legacy of Clayton 'Peg Leg' Bates: The One-Legged Dancing Legend
In this live episode of Kaatscast, recorded at theEmerson Resort & Spa on November 8, 2024, host Brett Barry engages in a detailed discussion with Elinor Levy,Folk Arts Program Manager at Arts Mid Hudson, about the life and legacy of Clayton 'Peg Leg' Bates.
The show explores Bates' inspiring journey from losing a leg in a cotton gin accident at the age of 12 to becoming one of the most celebrated tap dancers, performing on Broadway and appearing on 'The Ed Sullivan Show' at least 21 times.
Elinor shares insights from her research, Bates' entrepreneurial venture in establishing an interracial resort in the Catskills, and his impact on the Black community. The episode includes personal anecdotes, clips from a documentary about Bates, and audience Q&A, enriching the narrative of Bates' remarkable resilience and contribution to the arts.
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:38 Discovering Peg Leg Bates
01:36 Clayton Bates' Early Life and Career
03:07 Elinor Levy's Journey with Peg Leg Bates
04:53 The Peg Leg Bates Exhibit
06:45 Peg Leg Bates' Performances and Legacy
13:11 The Peg Leg Bates Resort
18:32 Community Impact and Personal Stories
24:56 The Decline of the Resort
30:44 Audience Q&A
41:06 Closing Remarks and Credits
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From the Bench: The Life and Music of Justin Kolb
Justin Kolb is an accomplished pianist who began playing at the age of four. Now 82, Justin continues to practice almost daily and performs intimate house concerts called "From the Bench," showcasing music "by living American composers as well as music that lives in undeserved obscurity."
Justin shares vivid memories from his early competitions to his debut with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, and recounts his time in the military where he balanced service with a budding concert career. After a successful stint in the business world, Justin returned to his passion for music, performing globally and conducting house concerts that are always a sellout. Tune in to hear about Justin’s extraordinary journey and his deep connection to the piano, culminating in a life dedicated to evoking emotion through music.
00:00 Introduction to Justin Kolb
01:04 Early Life and First Piano Lessons
02:19 Competitions and Early Success
05:04 Military Service and European Debut
08:54 Post-Military Career and Business Ventures
10:44 Return to Music and Retirement
13:10 From the Bench Concert Series
17:54 Reflections on Music and Practice
22:16 Conclusion and Contact Information

From Politics to Preserves: Silda Wall Spitzer's Sweet Transition
Grilled Cheese with a Twist: Lunch and Jam with New York First Lady Silda Wall Spitzer
Join us for a delightful culinary and conversational journey with Silda Wall Spitzer in her Hudson Valley home. In this episode, we explore Silda's gourmet jam business and taste a unique grilled cheese featuring brie and blueberry elderflower jam. Silda shares memories of how her jam-making journey began, her experiences as the former First Lady of New York, and her ongoing passion for sustainability and community service. Discover the blend of flavors in Silda's Jam, the ethos behind her entrepreneurship, and the stories that continue to inspire her work.
00:00 Introduction to a Gourmet Grilled Cheese
01:06 Meet Silda Wall Spitzer
01:42 The Origins of Silda's Jam
05:43 From First Lady to Jam Entrepreneur
06:29 Balancing Public and Private Life
10:05 Sustainability Initiatives in the Executive Mansion
13:18 A Diverse Career Beyond Albany
15:29 Innovations in Jam Making
17:53 Local Ingredients and Community Impact
19:19 Conclusion and Tasting the Grilled Cheese
21:44 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Chasing Tradition: Square Dancing in the Catskills
The episode explores a long-standing tradition of square dancing at the Chase (now Sparer) family home and barn, in Ashokan.
Host Brett Barry and production intern Olivia Sippel put on their dancing shoes and joined the fun, recording tales of traditional Catskills square dancing, and the musicians who are passing it down to a new generation of enthusiasts.
Fiddler and caller Earl Pardini leads the festivities at this particular event, which goes back to the 1970s. The barn where it's held has all the warmth and joviality of a Charles Dickens scene, and we felt very much welcomed into a mostly friends-and-family affair.
Featuring conversations with the Chase and Sparer families, the episode highlights deep-rooted Catskills traditions and includes insights from folklorist Ginny Shear and square dance caller Dane Scudder, who learned to "call" from a legend.
The episode is sponsored by Ulster Savings Bank, the Mountain Eagle, and Briars & Brambles Books. And if you're interested in joining our new member-listener program, we'd love to welcome you!
00:00 The Thanksgiving Square Dance Tradition
00:31 A Warm Welcome to the Chase Family Barn
01:37 The Origins of the Square Dance Tradition
02:55 The Sparer Family Continues the Legacy
03:48 Generational Memories of Square Dancing
05:24 Earl Pardini: The Fiddler and Caller
08:19 The Cultural Significance of Square Dancing
09:43 Fostering Traditional Catskills Square Dancing
11:55 The Future of Square Dancing
15:06 Concluding Thoughts and Future Adventures
15:37 Support and Sponsors

Porcupine Pursuits with Uldis Roze
Unveiling the Mysteries of the North American Porcupine
In this episode of 'Kaatscast,' host Brett Barry delves into the fascinating world of the North American porcupine with Uldis Roze, the world's foremost expert on this mysterious and lovable Catskills rodent.
Hear about the porcupine's habitat preferences, diet, mating behaviors, and unique defense mechanisms. Roze addresses common misconceptions, shares personal encounters, and reveals insights from his decades-long research, including the discovery of the molecule responsible for the porcupine's distinctive smell.
The episode is sponsored by Ulster Savings Bank, the Mountain Eagle, and Briars & Brambles Books, where you might consider requesting a copy of Uldis's book, The North American Porcupine!
00:00 Introduction to Porcupines in the Catskills
00:43 Meet Uldis Roze: Porcupine Expert
01:41 Porcupine Basics and Misconceptions
03:18 From Chemistry to Mammalogy
04:53 First Encounters with Porcupines
06:04 The Lifelong Study of Porcupines
07:00 Porcupine Defense Mechanisms
12:22 Capturing and Studying Porcupines
20:39 Porcupine Classification and Evolution
24:11 Porcupine Mating and Reproduction
27:04 Winter Survival Strategies
30:34 Threats to Porcupine Population
33:25 Personal Stories and Reflections
39:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Image of "Musa" courtesy of Uldis Roze
Click here for a bonus clip of the "porcupine house."

Borscht Belt Brilliance: The Extraordinary Art of Morris Katz
This episode of "Katz"cast delves into the fascinating life and career of Morris Katz, a Polish-born Holocaust survivor and acclaimed painter known for his lightning-fast painting technique using a palette knife and toilet paper! Recognized by the Guinness World Records, Katz captivated audiences with his vibrant performance art in the Catskills, creating over 280,000 pieces.
Learn about his unique method, his impact on Jewish cultural history, and recent exhibitions celebrating his work. Listen for an in-depth story about this charismatic and prolific artist, and discover how one host's bid on a Katz painting sparked a journey of discovery.
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Clips provided by George Schlatter Productions.
Thanks to Eddy Portnoy at the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research.
Real People TV report with Skip Stephenson
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00:00 Introduction to Morris Katz
01:48 Discovering Morris Katz
02:28 Morris Katz's Artistic Journey
03:14 YIVO Institute Exhibition
04:53 Eddie Portnoy's Encounter with Katz
06:00 Morris Katz's Unique Art Style
08:08 Katz in New York
09:28 Borscht Belt Museum Exhibit
11:08 Katz's Legacy
19:16 Conclusion and Personal Connection

Setting the Table: Kingston's International Museum of Dinnerware Design
Just in time for Thanksgiving, Kaatscast visits the unique International Museum of Dinnerware Design in Kingston, New York. Founded by Margaret Carney in 2012, the museum recently found its new home, offering dedicated exhibitions that celebrate the art and history of dining.
This episode highlights the museum's two inaugural exhibits, 'Dining Grails,' featuring renowned designers like Eva Zeisel; and 'Dining Memories,' showcasing a diverse array of dinnerware in nostalgic vignettes.
And for an 'interactive' experience like no other, visitors can step into the Instagram-ready 'a la carte gallery' and try their hand at the famous tablecloth trick. See how host Brett fared, in this slow-mo video.
00:00 Introduction to the Museum of Dinnerware Design
01:14 The Museum's Origins and Evolution
03:59 Why Kingston? The Journey to a New Home
06:17 Exploring the Inaugural Exhibits
07:36 Interactive Experiences and Unique Art Pieces
16:18 Dining Memories: A Walk Through Time
25:05 The Future of Dining and Museum's Vision
27:55 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The Anti-Rent War's Populist Legacy with Author Jennifer Kabat
This episode of Kaatscast delves into the transformative period of the 1830s in the United States, marked by mass enfranchisement and significant demographic changes.
The focus narrows to New York's Anti-Rent War (1839-1845), a period of political violence rooted in immigration anxiety and financial distress. Rebecca Rego Barry, our new literary correspondent (!), interviews author Jennifer Kabat about her new book, The Eighth Moon, which explores the Anti-Rent War and its legacy in the Catskills and beyond.
Kabat shares her research process, the radical political history she uncovered, and personal anecdotes about moving from London to the Catskills. The conversation evaluates the parallels between past and present political climates, culminating in a discussion about belonging and rebellion in rural America.
00:00 The Radical 1830s: A Time of Change
00:27 Exploring New York's Anti-Rent War
01:34 Interview with Jennifer Kabat
03:34 Discovering Local History
08:33 The Anti-Rent War Unfolds
17:07 Modern Parallels and Reflections
21:42 Community Connections and Belonging
27:31 Upcoming Works and Final Thoughts
34:39 Conclusion and Credits

Season of the Witch: Witchcraft and Maleficium in the Catskills
We sat down with historian Samantha Misa in the Frisbee family cemetery to uncover some witchy tales from our collective Catskills past.
Just in time for Halloween, Samantha shares some haunted encounters from Delaware County's Frisbee House and recounts tales from her book, Witches of the Catskills, including Molly Meyers, "witch cat," in Gilboa area's "Spook Woods."
Misa recounts the challenges of researching historical witchcraft, using old newspapers and archival records to reconstruct the tales.
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00:00 Introduction: Do You Believe in Witches?
00:20 Halloween Costumes and Modern Witches
00:56 Historical Witches in the Catskills
01:42 The Frisbee Family Legacy
03:45 Haunted Tales of the Frisbee House
04:55 Researching Witches of the Catskills
08:16 Challenges in Witchcraft Research
09:56 Witchcraft and Cats: A Historical Perspective
11:59 The Dark Mysteries of the Catskills
12:53 Chilling Tales and Skepticism
15:17 Molly Myers and Spook Woods
18:50 The Esperance Witch
19:48 Modern Beliefs and Halloween
20:46 Closing Remarks and Credits
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books and The Mountain Eagle.

Teen Lens 🎬 Woodstock Film Festival's Youth Film Lab
This episode takes us to the Woodstock Film Festival's Youth Film Lab, a three-week intensive filmmaking program for teens in Kingston, NY.
Each summer, participants learn filmmaking from industry professionals like Gregg Bray, Megan Sperry, Saskia Madlener, and David Becker. The YFL provides a tuition-free launchpad for young filmmakers to produce documentaries and narrative films, which go on in the fall to be screened at the Woodstock Film Festival.
00:00 Introduction to a Creative Journey
00:23 Youth Film Lab Overview
01:50 Inside the Filmmaking Process
04:03 Meet the Instructors
12:07 Student Experiences and Reflections
14:42 Program Impact and Future Prospects
18:37 Conclusion and Festival Information
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Ulster Savings Bank, and The Mountain Eagle.
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(Photo courtesy of Megan Sperry)

More than Maps: New York - New Jersey Trail Conference
More than Maps: Insights from the New York-New Jersey Trail Conference
In this episode of Kaatscast, host Brett Barry interviews Melissa Cascini, Senior Program Coordinator for the New York-New Jersey Trail Conference, during a hike on the Upper Ridge Trail at the Catskills Visitor Center. Melissa shares her journey with the organization, highlighting the importance of their iconic, durable trail maps and the broader scope of the Trail Conference's activities, including trail maintenance, public land protection, and battling invasive species through innovative programs like the conservation dog team. The discussion also delves into the conference's collaborations with other entities such as the DEC and various local clubs to maintain trails and infrastructure, especially in the Catskills region.
Melissa reflects on her passion for trails, the rewarding experience of working with dedicated volunteers, and how she balances professional responsibilities with her personal love for hiking and the outdoors.
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00:00 Introduction to the Trail Conference
00:17 Iconic Trail Maps
00:53 Meet Melissa Cassini
02:18 History and Mission of the Trail Conference
04:15 Partnerships and Collaborations
05:53 Trail Maintenance and Volunteer Work
09:52 Lean-to Projects and Accessibility
13:19 Getting Involved and Volunteer Opportunities
14:26 Personal Insights and Hobbies
16:05 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!

White Gold: The Rise and Fall of Catskill Cauliflower
In the early 20th century, Cauliflower Was King in the western Catskills, and –– especially in the good years –– farmers called it "white gold." Historian Diane Galusha describes the origins of cauliflower farming in Margaretville, the rise and fall of the industry from the 1890s to the 1950s (and beyond), and the notable contribution of the Van Benschoten family. Plus, voices from the annual Cauliflower Festival, celebrating its 20th year on September 21, 2024.
00:00 Introduction to Cauliflower and Personal Stories
00:55 Margaretville Cauliflower Festival Announcement
01:14 Historical Significance of Cauliflower in the Catskills
02:28 Interview with Historian Diane Galusha
03:47 The Rise and Fall of Cauliflower Farming
10:39 Challenges and Decline of the Industry
14:58 Legacy and Memories of Cauliflower Farming
20:11 Modern-Day Celebrations and Personal Anecdotes
22:59 Conclusion and Podcast Information
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, Ulster Savings Bank, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!
Please rate and review on the podcast app of your choice. Thank you!
(Photo courtesy of Diane Galusha)

Catskill Couture: MLE's Sustainable Fashion
In this episode of Kaatscast, we explore the journey of Emily Li Mandri, founder of the women's accessories brand MLE, based in Saugerties, New York. Emily shares insights into the challenges and rewards of running a fashion brand in Upstate New York, her commitment to eco-conscious materials and sustainable fashion, and the influence of her family's background in apparel. We also hear from her assistant, New Paltz theater grad Kiana Duggan-Haas, about the importance of sustainability in the fashion industry. Tune in for an inspiring discussion on ethical fashion practices, local craftsmanship, and a life/work balance in the Catskills.
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!
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00:00 Introduction to MLE
01:40 Meet the Founder: Emily Li Mandri
03:20 Sustainability in Fashion
05:58 Challenges and Innovations in Sustainable Fashion
12:51 Living and Working in the Catskills
14:44 Building a Local and National Brand
17:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Coffee ☕️ Food 🥪 and Fuel ⛽️ at Charlotteville General Store
Mark Hearon didn't always drink coffee, but when he got started, he was all in. Now, he's roasting fair trade organic coffee at an 1872 general store that also carries gourmet sandwiches and local essentials –– beer, bread, milk, fishing bait, even a fill-up for your car from a vintage gas pump, making it a unique one-stop-shop for both locals and travelers.
Joined by his daughter Ashley Hearon-Smith, the store’s part-time publicist and social media manager, Mark shares his journey from discovering coffee roasting in California to perfecting his craft in the Catskills. The episode covers the store’s rich history, the roasting process, and the community’s enthusiastic support, including local products such as meats, cheeses, and fresh baked goods.
https://www.charlottevillegeneralstore.com
00:00 Introduction
00:38 Meet Mark Hearon: The Man Behind the Coffee
01:54 History of the Charlotteville General Store
03:08 Mark's Journey into Coffee Roasting
06:13 Ethically Sourced Coffee Beans
07:18 Ashley Hearon-Smith: Publicist and Media Guru
09:38 Roasting Process and Local Products
14:57 Tasting the Coffee and a Sampling of Sandwiches
16:21 Local Products and Community Support
17:47 Conclusion and How to Visit
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, Ulster Savings Bank, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!
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Unearthing the History of Catskills Trees with Dr. Michael Kudish
Michael Kudish is a Catskills legend and the authority on Catskills trees and forests. In 1971, Kudish earned his PhD with the thesis, "Vegetational History of the Catskill High Peaks." Five decades later, that research is ongoing.
In 2000, Purple Mountain Press published his landmark book, The Catskill Forest: A History. Now, an updated 6-volume set is in the works. I met up with Michael at his home/research library in Delaware County, to hear about his latest research sampling Catskills bogs and radio carbon dating peat and charcoal for even more insights into our Catskills forest past.
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!
Kaatscast: the Catskills Podcast was just recognized for the third consecutive year as the "Best Regional Podcast" in the 2024 Chronogrammies! Thank you for your votes, and please take a moment to rate and review us on the app of your choice so even more listeners can find us!
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00:00 Introduction to Michael Kudish and His Work
00:46 Meeting Michael Kudish: A Visit to His Research Library
01:09 Sponsors and Supporters of Kaatscast
02:09 Michael Kudish's Research Journey
04:50 Understanding the Catskills' Unique Vegetation
08:47 The Impact of Glaciation on Catskills Vegetation
12:41 Discovering History Through Bogs
19:03 Defining and Differentiating Bogs and Fens
28:41 Discovering Ancient Moss in the Catskills
29:08 Peat Sampling Techniques and Challenges
29:57 Radiocarbon Dating: Methods and Costs
31:01 Funding Research Through Retirement
32:09 Transitioning to Writing: The Next Chapter
32:54 Expanding Knowledge: From One Volume to Six
34:22 Consistent Vegetation Over Millennia
37:41 Climate Change Insights
38:39 Exploring the Extent of Catskill Bogs
39:52 Ancient Charcoal and Forest Fires
42:48 Uncovering Prehistoric Forests
47:04 The Six-Volume Catskill Forest History
50:16 The Joy and Work of Field Research
52:15 The Interconnected Lives of Trees
53:45 Conclusion and Future Work

Catskill Mountain Shakespeare
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears. Hark! On this day's Kaatscast, we journey to the quaint village of Hunter in fair New York, whereupon Catskill Mountain Shakespeare doth present a stirring rendition of the noble tragedy, Julius Caesar. Attend thee this discourse with the esteemed founder and artistic director, Sarah Reny. And verily, seize thee a billet, for this performance doth breathe new life into a timeless saga.
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, Ulster Savings Bank, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!
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Poster design by Nicole Caputo; courtesy CMS.

Bruderhof: a Christian Community in the Platte Clove
The Bruderhof is a worldwide community of 3,000 Christians who, inspired by the early church, share their money and possessions, and practice "full-time discipleship," working, dining, and singing together. Perhaps you've bumped into one of their members out in the world (women can be identified by their conservative dress, reminiscent of Amish or colonial attire).
Here in the Catskills is a sizable community of 240 residents, in Greene County's Platte Clove. They invited me in for a firsthand look at life in the community, and they graciously answered even my most pointed questions regarding a lifestyle that might seem foreign to others. The Bruderhof aren't reclusive, though, and as the Bible instructs, they are the best kind of neighbors.
Join us on this special trip to the Platte Clove Bruderhof community.
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!
Kaatscast: the Catskills Podcast was just recognized for the third consecutive year as the "Best Regional Podcast" in the 2024 Chronogrammies! Thank you for your votes, and please take a moment to rate and review us on the app of your choice so even more listeners can find us!

A Life on the Mountain Top with Dede Terns-Thorpe and Ed Thorpe
Dede Terns-Thorpe is the historian for the Town of Hunter, referred to locally as "the mountain top," and comprising the villages of Hunter and Tannersville, and the hamlets of Edgewood, Elka Park, Lanesville, and Platte Clove, plus the historic private communities: Onteora Park, Twilight Park, and Elka Park. Dede's passionate about the history of this place, and she's got her own history here, too, which is mostly what we talked about when we met at Tannersville's Mountain Top library. We were joined by Dede's husband Ed, a Mountain Top native with a few stories of his own to share!
Photo courtesy Dede Terns-Thorpe
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, Ulster Savings Bank, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!
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Ralph Waldo Emerson 🎙️ LIVE at Emerson Resort & Spa
Join us for our very first LIVE show, recorded at Emerson Resort & Spa as part of their weekend celebration of Ralph Waldo's birthday (born May 25, 1803).
Hear from Catskills scholars and writers Leslie T. Sharpe and Bill Birns, with music by Steve Koester! Q&A with the audience, and more!
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If you missed the live event, you can still play our trivia! Top three submissions win 2 drink tokens to the Catamount bar + a CD of Henry David Thoreau's Autumnal Tints! Contest is now closed. Congratulations to our winners!
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!

Country Life: Septic Maintenance and Repair
Municipal sewer systems are few and far between in the rural Catskills, so chances are high that your home is reliant on its own septic system. And if that system isn't maintained, well, things could get ugly at the most inopportune time.
Thanks to some beefy financial incentives from the Catskill Watershed Corporation, there's really no excuse to delay septic maintenance, and maybe even a full system replacement. In 2023 alone, the CWC subsidized 312 septic repairs/replacements and 680 maintenance calls.
Join us for a conversation with Orville Smith, from Titan Drilling; and the Catskill Watershed Corporation's Eric Lane and Mitchell Hull, for plenty of practical advice for keeping your system running smoothly.
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, Ulster Savings Bank, and The Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!

Nature Calls 🍃 Conversations from the Hudson Valley
In 2022, four Master Gardeners were looking for a new way to bring their expertise to our region, and they did so with a weekly podcast on everything from honeybees to hydrangeas; perennials and pollinators; monarchs, chickens, seeds, goats, and houseplants.
Nature Calls: Conversations from the Hudson Valley is a production of Cornell Cooperative Extension, Columbia and Greene Counties.
And speaking of Cornell, the seed for this podcast was planted in the midst of the American Civil War. Tune in to hear how Abraham Lincoln set that ... root ball (?) in motion!
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Thanks to this week's sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, and the Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and through the support of listeners like you!

Preparing for a Hike 🎒 with Paul Misko
Paul Misko is an avid Catskills hiker, who –– true to his Boy Scout roots –– is always prepared. As spring rolls in and we pull out the hiking boots (maybe shaking out some nuts and nesting material from winter mouse habitation), Paul offers a refresher on what to pack for our walks in the woods, plus some best practices for hiking with kids and leading a group.
For more, check out Paul's blog, Catskill Forest Adventures.
And if you'd like to hear John Burroughs' own account of that ill-fated hike on Slide Mountain, we just happen to have an audio edition of his famous essay -- "The Heart of the Southern Catskills" -- on our audiobook titled Afloat & Afoot.
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Thanks to our sponsors: Briars & Brambles Books, Hanford Mills Museum, Ulster Savings Bank, and the Mountain Eagle.
Kaatscast is made possible through a grant from the Nicholas J. Juried Family Foundation, and the support of listeners like you!