Two Writers Slinging Yang

Two Writers Slinging Yang

By Jeff Pearlman

Jeff Pearlman's weekly in-depth, no-holds-barred conversation with a writer on writing. Available here and on iTunes
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Hamilton Nolan: Terrific political and labor writer; author of "The Hammer: Power, Inequality, and the Struggle for the Soul of Labor"

Two Writers Slinging YangJan 28, 2025
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51:24
Josh Adam Meyers: Stand-up comedian

Josh Adam Meyers: Stand-up comedian

On funny v. not funny; on how addiction impacts performing; on tragedy's role in finding a voice; on the late Jerry Rocha

Jun 16, 202601:50:33
Paola Boivin: Arizona State journalism professor

Paola Boivin: Arizona State journalism professor

On the state of journalism education in 2026. On how to teach writing and reporting. On great students, good students, bad students. On life as a newspaper columnist back in the day.

Jun 09, 202648:00
Melanie Mannarino: Longtime magazine writer and editor

Melanie Mannarino: Longtime magazine writer and editor

On her life at everywhere from Cosmo to Seventeen to Shape to Marie Claire. On the difference between a print byline and a digital byline. On the glory days of magazines. On Seventeen during its golden run.

Jun 02, 202649:49
Marisa Ingemi: Golden State Valkyries beat reporter

Marisa Ingemi: Golden State Valkyries beat reporter

On starting her own website to cover the WNBA's golden franchise. On what she's learned about life in independent media. On past existence as a hockey writer. On journalism 2026.

May 26, 202652:50
Hunter Biden: Addiction advocate, man who has seen some shit

Hunter Biden: Addiction advocate, man who has seen some shit

On overcoming addiction in a public spotlight. On why his father would have beaten Trump again. On cruelty spreading like poison oak. On finding joy in life. On TikTok.

May 19, 202601:06:32
Jemele Hill: Writer, reporter, podcaster

Jemele Hill: Writer, reporter, podcaster

On the WNBA and limited locker room access. On reporters refusing to back on another. On covering democracy as it crumbles. On the definitions of 2026 media ...

May 12, 202601:07:42
Chelsea Frei: "The Paper" star and deliverer of THE wedding toast of 2026

Chelsea Frei: "The Paper" star and deliverer of THE wedding toast of 2026

On the pressures of writing a toast for your sister's wedding. On whether it's OK to call her a "bitch." On working her ass off to make it in Hollywood. On the joy of "The Paper."

May 05, 202657:30
Jeff Schultz: Retired Athletic columnist, AJC and LA Daily News scribe

Jeff Schultz: Retired Athletic columnist, AJC and LA Daily News scribe

On surviving for decades in a brutal business. On what modern reporters lack in interviewing skills. On Eric Dickerson's shoes and Chipper Jones memories. On retirement.

Apr 28, 202601:00:38
Kevin Tankersley: Baylor University journalism professor and veteran writer

Kevin Tankersley: Baylor University journalism professor and veteran writer

On how to teach writing in 2026. On whether bad scribes can become good scribes. On the legend of Biscuits O'Bryan. On why Waco should be your next vacation destination.

Apr 21, 202644:05
Alan Shipnuck: Author, "Rory: The Heartache and Triumph of Golf's Most Human Superstar"

Alan Shipnuck: Author, "Rory: The Heartache and Triumph of Golf's Most Human Superstar"

On writing a biography without the help of the protagonist. On living life in a tight sport with many bruised feelings. On whether people still understand reporting. On golf.

Apr 14, 202601:00:28
Liz Cook: Kansas City-based food writer

Liz Cook: Kansas City-based food writer

On how influencers are corrupting reviews. On the joy of a delicious meal. On whether her city is corrupted by a celebrity restaurant. On Substack life.

Apr 07, 202647:45
Charles Pierce: Esquire political blogger

Charles Pierce: Esquire political blogger

On how the stupidity of this administration might save America. On the continued joy of the written word. On life at The National. On the awfulness of J.D. Vance.

Mar 31, 202650:50
Mike Vaccaro: New York Post sports columnist and author, "The Bosses of the Bronx: The Endless Drama of the Yankees Under the House of Steinbrenner"

Mike Vaccaro: New York Post sports columnist and author, "The Bosses of the Bronx: The Endless Drama of the Yankees Under the House of Steinbrenner"

On digging deep into the mythology of the Steinbrenners and the Yankee dynasty. On whether George knew whereof he spoke. On the joys of newspaper writing in 2026.

Mar 24, 202601:10:24
Thomas Harding: Colorado Rockies beat writer, MLB.com

Thomas Harding: Colorado Rockies beat writer, MLB.com

On covering one of sport's least-significant franchises. On why baseball still excites him. On the joys of spring training. On a furious Memphis State men's basketball coach.

Mar 17, 202657:36
Prince Grimes: USA Today/For The Win sports writer

Prince Grimes: USA Today/For The Win sports writer

On the impact gambling has on modern sports—and modern sports coverage; on rising from Walmart to ESPN to USA Today; on the wild nights and crazy days of Bristol, Conn.

Mar 10, 202646:43
Tim Cowlishaw: Dallas Morning News sports columnist

Tim Cowlishaw: Dallas Morning News sports columnist

On the golden days of covering the Dallas Cowboys. On the highs and lows of ESPN TV glory. On surviving in an unforgiving profession and showing up unannounced at Jimmy Johnson's home. On the demise of Skip Bayless.

Mar 03, 202601:09:43
Steve Wulf: Former Sports Illustrated baseball writer; Original ESPN The Magazine big gun

Steve Wulf: Former Sports Illustrated baseball writer; Original ESPN The Magazine big gun

On rising from covering horses in Florida to the Major Leagues for SI; on starting up ESPN The Magazine; on Michael Jordan and the issue that killed his relationship with a magazine; on writing a letter to a friend.

Feb 24, 202636:27
Lia Assimakopoulos: Dallas Stars and SMU beat writer, Dallas Morning News

Lia Assimakopoulos: Dallas Stars and SMU beat writer, Dallas Morning News

On the joys of covering an NHL team and the difficulty of not traveling on the beat. On the transition from college to a major newspaper. On what type of access hockey offers reporters in 2026.

Feb 17, 202653:44
Luke Epplin: Author, "Moses and The Doctor: Two Men, One Championship and the Birth of Modern Basketball."

Luke Epplin: Author, "Moses and The Doctor: Two Men, One Championship and the Birth of Modern Basketball."

On the joys and complications of writing a book on a reclusive dead man and a highly exposed living one. On finally landing an interview with Julius Erving. On life inside a publishing house.

Feb 10, 202655:34
Devon Henderson: Staff writer, The Athletic

Devon Henderson: Staff writer, The Athletic

On landing at The Athletic at age 22. On learning to be edited when it's not particularly fun. On avoiding career jealousy. On the benefits of Arizona State. On the saga of a young basketball phenom fighting back.

Feb 03, 202651:18
Howard Bryant: Author, "Kings and Pawns: Jackie Robinson and Paul Robeson in America"

Howard Bryant: Author, "Kings and Pawns: Jackie Robinson and Paul Robeson in America"

On what America misunderstands about Jackie Robinson and needs to understand about Paul Robeson. On what history can teach us about 2026 madness. On why the mythology of Branch Rickey is a departure from reality. On the modern approach to book PR.

Jan 27, 202601:09:17
Terry McDonnell: Former Sports Illustrated, Us Weekly, Men's Journal, Rolling Stone editor

Terry McDonnell: Former Sports Illustrated, Us Weekly, Men's Journal, Rolling Stone editor

On working with many of the greatest writers of the past century. On coming to Sports Illustrated with no ties and lots of questions. On how he views a lifetime in print. On the joys of the written word.

Jan 20, 202654:50
Victoria Zeller: Author, "One of the Boys"

Victoria Zeller: Author, "One of the Boys"

On the responsibilities that come with life as a trans author trying to impact trans readers. On what her life experience brought to the page. On how she landed her first book deal.

Jan 13, 202657:00
Erik Kramer Former NFL QB, author of "The Ultimate Comeback"

Erik Kramer Former NFL QB, author of "The Ultimate Comeback"

On attempting to take his own life with a gun—and living to tell. On the tragic loss of a son. On why Rodney Peete is cooler than Andre Ware and whether he could still throw NFL passes. On finding meaning in life.

Jan 06, 202658:49
Kelsi Mayne: Fantastic on-the-rise country singer

Kelsi Mayne: Fantastic on-the-rise country singer

On the step-by-step process of writing her new single, "For The Record." On what it means to make it in country music in 2025. On the impact of Eminem on her writing process. On writing for the Walmart shopper.

Dec 30, 202555:38
Rob Marriott: Former editor/writer for XXL, Vibe, The Source

Rob Marriott: Former editor/writer for XXL, Vibe, The Source

On the glory days of hip-hop media—and the decline. On what drew a young Rob to the genre. On writing about music when the creators aren't so happy. On the brutally honest CD review. On Tupac.

Dec 23, 202501:11:03
Susan Orlean: New Yorker writer and author of the new memoir, "Joyride."

Susan Orlean: New Yorker writer and author of the new memoir, "Joyride."

On the keys to capturing your own life via memoir. On why this multi-city book tour will likely be her last. On how it feels to have a book become a major motion picture. On turning 70 as a scribe.

Dec 16, 202552:03
Christopher John Farley: Author, "Who Knows You By Heart"

Christopher John Farley: Author, "Who Knows You By Heart"

On the terrifying AI path humanity has opted to stroll. On creating characters and giving them depth and voice. On how one comes up with an ending to a novel. On a career covering musical artists.

Dec 09, 202557:10
Joshua Kusnick: Former MLB agent and current stand-up comic

Joshua Kusnick: Former MLB agent and current stand-up comic

On why he thrashed me on TikTok for months and months. On the highs and lows of athlete representation. On why certain baseball execs make him sick. On the joys and pains of social media.

Dec 02, 202501:14:29
James Shippy: Audio book narrator and news reporter/anchor

James Shippy: Audio book narrator and news reporter/anchor

On voicing "Only God Can Judge Me: The Many Lives of Tupac Shakur." On the changing nature of audio book recordings. On transition from acting to news television.

Nov 25, 202558:55
Mark Medina: Longtime NBA writer/reporter

Mark Medina: Longtime NBA writer/reporter

On the changing landscape of basketball media. On what life was like covering Kobe Bryant. On the highs and higher highs of USA Today. On whether there's a future for this industry.

Nov 18, 202556:33
Mike Levin: United States Congressman

Mike Levin: United States Congressman

On how the decline of media has impacted political messaging and general news. On whether people should still have faith in America. On Speaker Mike Johnson and his steady diet of bullshit.

Nov 11, 202547:49
Jim Geschke: Former San Diego Padres spokesman and co-author of Tony Gwynn's autobiography

Jim Geschke: Former San Diego Padres spokesman and co-author of Tony Gwynn's autobiography

On the wild, wacky, weird joy of working with the 1984 Padres. On how he was plucked to help write Tony Gwynn's autobiography. On the highs and lows of life in baseball.

Nov 04, 202554:38
Jim Lampley: Legendary sports announcer, author of, "It Happened!: A Uniquely Lucky Life in Sports Television"

Jim Lampley: Legendary sports announcer, author of, "It Happened!: A Uniquely Lucky Life in Sports Television"

On the highs and lows of watching boxers live and die in the ring. On lessons learned from television. On the craziest boxer he's covered. On the old USFL.

Oct 28, 202556:15
Michele Soulli: The world's greatest researcher/genealogist

Michele Soulli: The world's greatest researcher/genealogist

On how she managed to track down Brenda's baby—and Brenda. On whether Ancestry is reliable. On how technology impacts family digging.

Oct 21, 202552:56
Jeff Pearlman, author of "Only God Can Judge Me: The Many Lives of Tupac Shakur"

Jeff Pearlman, author of "Only God Can Judge Me: The Many Lives of Tupac Shakur"

On why a sports writer would think himself worthy of chronicling Tupac Shakur. On the highs and lows and hardships of book reporting. On Tupac's amazing journey.

Oct 14, 202545:17
Seth Wickersham: ESPN senior writer and author of "American Kings: A Biography of the Quarterback"

Seth Wickersham: ESPN senior writer and author of "American Kings: A Biography of the Quarterback"

On whether the publication payoff is worth the grind of book reporting. On Warren Moon and Tom Brady and the dudes who throw balls very far. On deciding which superstars to cover.

Oct 07, 202551:03
Bill Madden: Veteran New York Daily News scribe and author of, "Yankees, Typewriters, Scandals, and Cooperstown: A Baseball Memoir "

Bill Madden: Veteran New York Daily News scribe and author of, "Yankees, Typewriters, Scandals, and Cooperstown: A Baseball Memoir "

On what it was like to cover the Bronx Zoo Yankees of the 1970s. On Reggie and Billy and George. On what he learned from the legends of the business. On why baseball stopped being so fun.

Sep 30, 202557:16
Jane Leavy, New York Times best-selling author of, "Make Me Commissioner: I Know What's Wrong with Baseball and How to Fix It"

Jane Leavy, New York Times best-selling author of, "Make Me Commissioner: I Know What's Wrong with Baseball and How to Fix It"

On the pleasure/pain of the bookstore event. On why baseball seems so dull and listless; on meeting with the greats of the game; on living in book hell.

Sep 23, 202555:09
Dan Wetzel: ESPN.com writer

Dan Wetzel: ESPN.com writer

On making the jump from Yahoo to ESPN after decades in one spot. On surviving as a top-shelf sports journalist in a hellish age. On the highs and lows and lows and highs of the gig. On early pizza-making days.

Sep 16, 202501:04:23
Lulu Kesin: Greenville News' South Carolina women's basketball and football beat writer

Lulu Kesin: Greenville News' South Carolina women's basketball and football beat writer

On the similarities and differences between covering women's basketball and football at a major university. On life with Dawn Staley, and whether she would make a good NBA coach. On coming up in the modern era of adjusted journalistic dreams.

Sep 09, 202557:49
Tony Mandarich: Former NFL offensive lineman and TikTok superstar

Tony Mandarich: Former NFL offensive lineman and TikTok superstar

On how he made the transition from football to social media. On why he likes Donald Trump way, way, way more than I do. On whether it's OK to own past mistakes—and how to do so. On decency with those who disagree.

Sep 02, 202556:00
Elizabeth Merrill: ESPN senior writer

Elizabeth Merrill: ESPN senior writer

On the details and doggedness of a lengthy look at the aftermath of the 1988 New Orleans Saints. On interviewing people after a tragedy. On life on the mid-2000s Kansas City Chiefs beat.

Aug 26, 202501:01:35
Emily Adams: Hartford Courant beat writer, Connecticut Sun and UConn women's basketball

Emily Adams: Hartford Courant beat writer, Connecticut Sun and UConn women's basketball

On the challenges and joys of covering the WNBA in 2025. On what it's like to cover a painfully bad team after always covering great ones. On the differences between Dawn Staley and Geno Auriemma

Aug 19, 202501:01:26
Dick Friedman: Former Sports Illustrated senior editor

Dick Friedman: Former Sports Illustrated senior editor

On the daunting task of line editing some of the all-time great sports writers. On how to improve a piece and how to back off. On the glory days of magazines. On covering Harvard football as an alum.

Aug 12, 202558:53
Lizzy Wright: Co-Author, "Marinovich: Outside the Lines in Football, Art, and Addiction"

Lizzy Wright: Co-Author, "Marinovich: Outside the Lines in Football, Art, and Addiction"

On what prompted her to write a book with. former football phenom Todd Marinovich. On how to capture the voice of another person. On what she's learned about the intricacies of the game from being married to an NFL veteran.

Aug 05, 202553:29
Joseph Bien-Kahn: Senior editor, Esses Magazine

Joseph Bien-Kahn: Senior editor, Esses Magazine

On throwing himself into the world of motor sports without having a PhD in motor sports. On whether media can be saved—and how. On chatting up Laurence Fishburne when Laurence Fishburne has been chatted up to death. On whether this biz is worth it.

Jul 29, 202552:54
Julia Poe: Chicago Tribune Bulls and Sky beat writer

Julia Poe: Chicago Tribune Bulls and Sky beat writer

On covering an NBA team vs. a WNBA team. On the phenomenon of Angel Reese and the joy of DeMar DeRozan. On whether she knew what she was talking about back in college. On whether writing can be taught, or is strictly natural.

Jul 22, 202548:57
Chris Hine: Minneapolis Star Tribune Wolves beat writer and Ant Edwards biographer

Chris Hine: Minneapolis Star Tribune Wolves beat writer and Ant Edwards biographer

On how one writes a biography on a young superstar entering his prime. On the wild boredom of Las Vegas summer league. On Jimmy Butler and Karl-Anthony Towns. On working as an openly gay journalist in 2025 professional sports.

Jul 15, 202555:41
Shehan Jeyarajah: CBS Sports College Football Wrtiter

Shehan Jeyarajah: CBS Sports College Football Wrtiter

On his spectacular 5,000-word deep dive into Texas Tech football and the power (and limitations) of NIL dough. On creating content in a confusing time for content creators. On whether the writing dream still lives. On a Sri Lankan dude covering college sports in the deep south.

Jul 08, 202556:12