
EdUp Smart Space
By Craig Park


Episode 41 - Design Thinking & The Human Connection - Part II
In this episode, Craig Park and Dave Broz, Assistant Professor at Columbia College Chicago, continue their exploration of the evolution of technology-enabled learning environments.
Their focus in this second part of the program is on personalized learning, equity for hybrid learners, and the challenges of multi-modal technology for faculty and students.
For more information about Dave Broz, see his LinkedIn profile at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbroz/

Episode 40 - Design Thinking & the Human Connection - Part 1
In this engaging conversation, Craig Park and Dave Broz, Assistant Professor at Columbia College in Chicago, explore the intersection of campus technology and architectural design, emphasizing the importance of creating educational environments that foster human connection and learning.
Broz shares his journey into architecture, the impact of design on learning spaces, and the significance of biophilia in enhancing mental well-being.
They discuss the need for variability in learning environments to spark students' curiosity and agency, and the importance of stakeholder engagement in the design process.
The conversation highlights the evolving nature of educational spaces and the critical role of design in shaping the future of learning.

Episode 39 - Looking Back & Looking Forward: Campus Tech Trends 2025 & 2026
In this end-of-the-year episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig reviews the significant themes and trends in campus technology for 2025, focusing on artificial intelligence, integrated planning, and human-centered design.
Craig also forecasts key technology trends for 2026, emphasizing AI as a utility, the evolution of teaching spaces, and the convergence of technology roles within educational institutions.

Episode 38 - Human in the Loop
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park and AI co-host Abby discuss the critical role of human involvement in implementing AI in higher education.
They explore the concept of 'human in the loop' as foundational for responsible AI use, emphasizing the need for human oversight in AI systems to ensure they understand context, culture, and the complexities of campus life.
The conversation is inspired by Patrizia Bertini's article on emerging jobs in the AI era, and it leads to a detailed examination of seven essential human-centered roles that facilitate effective AI integration in educational environments.Bertini, Patrizia, The Salt in the AI Cake, Medium, 111725

Episode 37 - The Integrator's Role in Learning Space Design
In this conversation, Josh Goldberg, Head of Technical Sales at Mason Technologies in New York City, talks about the role of the technology system integrator in helping educational institutions achieve their goals for user-friendly learning environments.
Josh emphasizes the critical importance of user experience in education, advocating for technology's enhanced role in teaching. He discusses the varying learning styles of individuals and the need for interactive, hands-on learning experiences, particularly in fields like music.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuadgoldberg
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Episode 36 - Healthy Green Schools & Colleges - Opportunities for Safely Integrating AI
This episode explores the integration of AI into facilities management within educational institutions. It discusses the historical evolution of AI, current challenges faced by education facilities, and outlines seven pillars for the safe adoption of AI, drawn from my presentation at the Fall Virtual Conference of Healthy Green Schools & Colleges.
The program also highlights practical applications of AI in facilities management and predicts future trends in the field.
- AI is a powerful tool that can enhance facility management.
- AI can transform reactive maintenance into proactive management.
- Data governance is crucial for successful AI implementation.
- AI literacy among staff is essential for effective use.
- Cybersecurity must be prioritized in AI deployments.
- Human oversight is vital to ensure ethical AI use.
For more information, please visit HealthyGreenSchools.org.

Episode 35 - Leadership, Learning & Legacy - A Conversation with Michael Frank
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park interviews Michael Frank, Director of North American Partners at Visionoary Solutions, a seasoned leader in the AV industry, and a retired Lieutenant Commander in the US Coast Guard Reserve.
They discuss the intersection of leadership, technology, and education, exploring how Michael's military background has shaped his leadership style, the evolution of AV technology in educational environments, and the challenges institutions face in adopting new technologies.
Michael shares insights on building high-performance teams, the impact of AI on education, and his commitment to community service through organizations like Veterans Last Patrol.
The conversation concludes with a look at future opportunities in education and technology.

Episode 34 - From Chalk to Cloud: An Educator's Journey - A Conversation with Dr. Samuel Wathen
In this conversation, Dr. Samuel Wathen shares his extensive experience in higher education, discussing the evolution of technology in the classroom, the impact of the pandemic on teaching methods, and the future of educational technology, including the role of AI.
He emphasizes the importance of infrastructure, active learning, and maintaining a personal touch in education.
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Episode 33 - AV Infrastructure Planning - A Conversation with JW Woodard
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park and JW Woodard, Consultant Liaison at Harman Pro, discuss the critical role of AV infrastructure design in educational facilities.
They explore JW's journey in the AV industry, the challenges faced in AV planning, and the importance of treating AV as an infrastructure asset.
The conversation highlights the need for early AV involvement in design processes, common mistakes in AV planning, and the impact of AV on learning outcomes.
They also touch on emerging technologies, user interface considerations, and the future of AV in hybrid learning environments.
Connect with JW Woodard on LinkedIn @ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jw-woodard/
Learn more about Harman at https://www.harman.com/pro-audio

Episode 32 - Building Beyond: Co-Creating the Campus of the Future
In this episode, Craig discusses the intersection of education, technology, and the built environment, focusing on the challenges and opportunities in campus technology planning. based on his presentation at the Educational Technology Collaborative 2025 Conference in Raleigh, NC.
He emphasizes the importance of early collaboration between technology leaders and design teams to create effective learning environments, and guides the structuring of visionary collaborative teams.
The conversation introduces the Bridge Framework, a structured approach to integrating technology into campus projects, and highlights the cost implications of late technology engagement.
Real-world examples illustrate the benefits of proactive planning and the need for institutions to adapt to the evolving educational landscape.

Episode 31 - AI and the Future of Campus Infrastructure
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park discusses the transformative impact of artificial intelligence on campus infrastructure and management.
He outlines the challenges faced by educational institutions, including declining enrollments and budget constraints, and emphasizes the need for intelligent systems to enhance operational efficiency.
Park presents a roadmap for integrating AI into facilities operations, highlighting seven future-ready technology strategies that can modernize campus environments.
He also addresses the importance of implementation strategies and the evolving role of facilities leaders in the AI era, advocating for collaboration and clarity in decision-making.

Episode 30 - Integrated Planning for Higher Ed Spaces - A Conversation with Heather Bemis
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park interviews Heather Bemis, founder and CEO of Swap Integration.
They discuss the evolving landscape of campus planning, the importance of collaborative project management, and how technology, particularly AI, is shaping the future of design and construction.
Heather shares her journey from architect to entrepreneur, the challenges of planning different types of campus spaces, and the significance of early stakeholder engagement.
The conversation emphasizes the need for a creative approach to planning, the value of visual tools, and the human element in project management.
For more information visit www.swapintegration.com

Episode 29 - Sound Foundations - A Conversation with Gina Sansivero
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park and Gina Sansivero of AtlasIED discuss the critical role of audio infrastructure in higher education.
They explore how audio quality impacts student success, inclusivity for diverse learners, and the importance of integrating audio systems with other technologies.
The conversation also covers practical steps for implementing effective audio solutions and highlights case studies of successful audio projects in educational settings.
Finally, they touch on the future of audio in education, emphasizing the need for holistic approaches to sound design.

Episode 28 - Designing Spaces & Interfaces: Education, UX & AI - A Conversation with Nick Cawthon
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space: The Future of Campus Technology, Craig Park welcomes Nick Cawthon, founder of Guage and longtime educator in data visualization and design strategy.
Nick shares insights from his journey through design, cognition, and architecture programs, and how his career at the intersection of digital design, user experience, and AI informs the way we shape learning environments today.
Together, Craig and Nick explore how physical and digital spaces converge in higher education, from acoustics and accessibility in classrooms to AI-powered learning experiences and data-informed design strategies.
Nick emphasizes the importance of democratizing user research, striking a balance between technology adoption and human-centered practices, and preparing institutions to adopt AI responsibly.
You can learn more at www.guage.io.

Episode 27 - Space, Tech & AI - A Conversation with Rhea Kelly
In this episode of Ed Up Smart Space, host Craig Park engages with Rhea Kelly, editor in chief of Campus Technology, to explore the evolving landscape of educational technology.
They discuss Rhea's journey in the EdTech field, the significant shifts in technology and pedagogy, and the transformative role of AI in education.
The conversation delves into the impact of AI on learning spaces, the importance of governance and guidelines for AI implementation, and the future trends of AI and virtual reality in education.

Episode 26 - Getting AV Systems Right - My Thoughts on Integrated Planning for AV Systems Success
In this episode of the EdUp Smart Space podcast, I discuss the critical importance of effective technology planning in higher education facilities. He identifies common challenges such as siloed teams, stakeholder disconnect, and the pitfalls of future-proofing.
I then present solutions through an integrated planning approach, emphasizing collaboration among all stakeholders. He outlines the expected results of these strategies, including reduced project risk, enhanced user satisfaction, and long-term operational success.
Finally, I envision a future of adaptive learning ecosystems where technology seamlessly integrates with educational experiences.

Episode 25 - Acoustics & Audio in Smart Space Design - A Conversation with Joel Lewitz, PE
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park and Joel Lewitz, PE, discuss the critical role of acoustics in educational environments, particularly how AI is transforming these spaces.
They explore the evolution of acoustics technology, the challenges of active learning classrooms, and the integration of AI to create smart acoustic environments.
The conversation includes practical advice for implementing AI-enhanced acoustics, a case study on Stanford Stadium, and insights into the future of audio systems in education.
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Episode 24 - Designing for Accessibility & Inclusivity - A Conversation with Dr. Amy Lomellini
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park is joined by Dr. Amy Lomellini, Director of Accessibility at Anthology, for a powerful conversation on building a culture of inclusion in higher education.
Together, they unpack why accessibility is more than compliance, how inclusive design benefits every learner, and where institutions often stumble in supporting faculty and students.
They also explore the promise and pitfalls of AI tools in accessibility, the importance of starting with intentional design instead of costly retrofits, and practical first steps colleges can take to embed accessibility across teaching, technology, and campus culture.
Looking ahead, Dr. Lomellini shares her vision of a future where accessibility is simply non-negotiable—seamlessly integrated into every aspect of education.
Whether you’re an educator, designer, or technology leader, this episode offers actionable insights on creating learning environments that work for everyone.
You can connect with Dr. Lomellin on LinkedIn and learn more about her work at Anthology, Inc., here.

Episode 23 - AGI & The Student of the Future (Part II)
This episode delves into the evolving landscape of education in the AGI era, focusing on the practical realities of assessment, academic integrity, career preparation, and the impact of AI on campus life.
Craig and Abby, the voice of AI, highlight the need for reimagining traditional grading systems, fostering student self-assessment, and adapting to new forms of social interaction and relationship building in a technology-driven environment.
Their conversation emphasizes the importance of human uniqueness and character development in an age where AI capabilities are rapidly advancing.

Episode 22 - AGI and the Student of the Future (Part I)
In the first of a 2-part episode of EdUp Smart Space, Craig Park and AI co-host Abby explore the profound implications of artificial general intelligence (AGI) on the student experience.
They discuss the fundamental shifts in education, the new literacies required for students, and the evolving concepts of identity and authenticity in the AGI era.
The conversation highlights the dual nature of student responses to AGI, the institutional responsibilities of universities, and the emerging need for ethical navigation in AI collaboration.

Episode 21 - AGI and the Campus of the Future - Part III
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, we explore the transformative journey of faculty in the era of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI).
As AGI reshapes the academic landscape, faculty are at a crossroads, evolving from traditional roles to becoming cognitive architects, context weavers, and ethical guides.
Join host Craig Park and AI thought partner Abby as they explore the seismic shifts in educational identity, the emotional landscape of resistance, and the new capabilities required for faculty to thrive.
Discover how AGI integration is not just a technological shift but a profound reimagining of what it means to be an educator.
Tune in to understand how faculty can harness AGI to enhance their roles and ensure that education remains a deeply human endeavor.

Episode 20 - AGI and the Campus of the Future - Part II
In this episode of the EdUp Smart Space podcast, host Craig Park and AI expert Abby discuss the urgent need for higher education institutions to prepare for Artificial General Intelligence (AGI).
They explore the infrastructure implications, including power, cooling, and network requirements, and offer strategies like the "10% rule" for manageable implementation.

Episode 19 - Open Building Strategies for the Future Ready Campus
In this episode, Craig Park and John Dale discuss the concept of open building, a design strategy that emphasizes adaptability and resilience in architecture.
John shares insights from his extensive experience in creating flexible environments that can evolve with changing needs.
The conversation covers the origins of open building, its six-layer model, real-world applications, and the future of this approach in urban planning and education.
For more information visit www.openbuildingcouncil.org, and connect with John at https://synchronis.design.

Episode 18 - Reimagining Learning Space - A Reflection by Craig Park
In this solo episode of EdUp Smart Space, I explore the concept of future-ready learning spaces, emphasizing the importance of adaptability, integration, and intelligence in educational environments.
I discuss the role of technology in enhancing learning experiencI es and the need for a human-centered design approach that considers equity and inclusion.
And, I introduce the seven-layer EdTech Navigator Framework for planning technology in learning spaces, focusing on vision, infrastructure, platform, interface, and adaptability.
I conclude with reflections on the future of educational spaces and the importance of creating environments that empower individuals.

Episode 17 - Exploring InfoComm 2025: Insights and Innovations
In this episode of the EdUp Smart Space podcast, Craig Park explores the key insights from InfoComm 25, focusing on the transformative trends in educational technology.
Craig shares the practical applications of AI in classrooms, the importance of robust network infrastructure, and the democratization of advanced AV capabilities.
The conversation highlights how higher education institutions are leading innovation, the shift towards flexible learning environments, and the global exchange of ideas shaping the future of education.
Craig poses thought-provoking questions for campus leaders to consider as they navigate the evolving educational technology landscape.#EdUp #EdUp Smart Space #FutureofCampusTechnology

Episode 16 - Building B.R.I.D.G.E.S. to Human-Centric Design - A Conversation with Dr. Lennie Scott-Webber
In this conversation, Craig Park and Dr. Lennie Scott-Webber explore the intersection of intentional design and technology in shaping the future of learning environments.
They discuss the importance of human-centric design, the B.R.I.D.G.E.S. project, and how to measure the performance of learning spaces.
The conversation also touches on the role of collaboration across disciplines and the impact of AI on educational design, emphasizing the need for the shift toward more equitable and effective learning environments.
https://essentials.edmarket.org/authors/lennie-scott-webber/

Episode 15 - Artificial General Intelligence and the Campus of the Future - Part I
Join host Craig Park and Abby the AI for another special edition as they explore why the gap between AGI's arrival and its true impact isn't a delay—it's an opportunity.
Learn why every lecture hall built today is a future liability, what 4000 watts per square meter really means for your campus, and how the boring infrastructure decisions you make in the next 2-3 years will determine whether your institution thrives or merely survives the AGI transformation.
Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) promises to transform higher education—but when and how? In this foundational episode, we cut through the hype to reveal a crucial insight: while AGI capabilities may arrive within 5-10 years, the massive infrastructure requirements create a 15-year transformation window that higher education leaders must understand now.

Episode 14 - Building the Future - A Conversation with Paul Mills
In this episode, Craig Park and Paul Mills discuss the innovative approaches of DIRTT, a company specializing in prefabricated interior construction solutions.
They explore the evolution of DIRTT's mission, particularly in the education sector, and how modular construction integrates with technology to create adaptable, sustainable learning environments.
The discussion highlights the benefits of optical fiber, customization, and the importance of reducing downtime through off-site fabrication.

Episode 13 - People-Centric Design: A Conversation with Katherine Kalant and Alli Mallory
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, host Craig Park discusses the intersection of education, technology, and architecture with Katherine Kalant and Alli Mallory from HED.
They explore the importance of a people-centric design approach in higher education, the integration of architecture and interior design, and the significance of engaging diverse stakeholders in the design process.
The conversation highlights innovative classroom designs, the adaptation to hybrid learning environments, and the role of data in planning.
They also discuss the need for inclusivity and accessibility in design, future innovations in campus spaces, and the importance of creating equitable education for all students.
For more info: https://hed.co/stories/higher-education

Episode 12 - From Campus to the AI Cloud - A Conversation with Julie Johnston
In this episode of EdUp Smart Space, host Craig Park talks with Julie Johnston, a pioneer in learning space innovation and the new director of AI innovation at Praxis AI.
They discuss Julie's journey in transforming learning environments, the role of AI in education, and how data can inform design decisions for learning spaces.
Julie shares insights on bridging the gap between physical and digital ecosystems, the importance of collaboration in technology projects, and the future of innovative learning environments.
The conversation emphasizes the need for data-driven decision-making and the potential of AI to enhance the educational experience.julie.johnston@praxisai.com

Episode 11 - Designing the Connected College - A Conversation with Elliot Felix
In this episode, Craig Park and Elliot Felix explore strategies for enhancing student experiences, the importance of design in creating connected colleges, and the role of technology in supporting student success.
Elliot shares insights from his extensive work with over 100 colleges and universities, emphasizing the need for collaboration, equity, and innovative design in higher education.
The conversation also touches on the future of campus planning, hybrid learning spaces, and the importance of fostering a sense of belonging among students.
For more information, visit www.burohappold.com or www.elliotfelix.com

Episode 7 - Designing Flexible Learning Environments - A Conversation with Dr. Lisa Stephens
In this episode, we discuss the evolution of learning spaces, the importance of active learning, and how technology can enhance educational experiences.
Dr. Lisa Stevens shares insights on collaboration among educators, the need for equity and accessibility, and the impact of demographic changes on higher education.
The conversation explores the integration of FlexSpace with long-term planning and emerging trends in immersive learning environments.
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Episode 10 - Planning with Purpose - A Conversation with Dr. Chris Morett
In this episode of the EdUp Smart Space podcast, host CraigPark and Dr. Chris Morett, a campus planning strategist and founder of Co|Here, discuss Chris's unexpected journey into campus planning, the influence of sociology on his approach, and the vision behind his consulting practice.
Chris emphasizes the importance of understandingorganizational behavior and the role of space in driving change. He also addresses the challenges higher education institutions face in long-range planning and the need for dynamic, responsive planning models.
Their conversation highlights the significance of storytellingin the planning process, advocating for a more inclusive and effective approach to campus design. They also emphasize the importance of integrated approaches in planning and the need for collaboration among diverse stakeholders.
Looking toward the future, Morett reflects on the evolvinglandscape of educational and workplace environments, the skills and mindsets required for planners, and the necessity of continuous learning.
For more information, visit Co|Here.

Episode 9 - Ergonomics to Experience - A Conversation with Craig Park
In this episode of the EdUp Smart Space podcast, Abbey the AI and Craig Park switch seats to discuss the intersection of human factors analysis and technology in creating innovative campus environments.
They explore the evolution of design principles, the definition of smart spaces, the role of AI, and the importance of personalized adaptability.
The conversation also addresses challenges in implementation, the need for equity, and ethical considerations surrounding data usage.
Finally, they envision the future of smart campuses and provide practical implementation strategies for institutions.
Here's a link to Craig's article, From Ergonomics to Experience.

Episode 8 - Integrating Wellness & Technology - A Conversation with Heather Keele
In this episode, Craig Park and Heather Keele discuss the intersection of architecture, technology, and sustainability in academic facilities. Heather shares her journey in people-centric design and the importance of creating spaces that foster innovation and well-being.
They explore the roles of WELL and LEED standards in promoting wellness and sustainability, the integration of technology in building design, and the need for flexibility in educational environments.
The discussion also highlights the significance of equity and inclusion in design, the impact of smart infrastructure, and the future trends in academic building design.
For more information, visit Clark & Enersen on the web.

Episode 6 - Designing Smart Space for Student Success - A Conversation with Heather Morgan
In this episode, Heather Morgan, an expert in higher education planning, shares her thoughts on the intersection of technology, design, and student success.
Heather and Craig explore how to translate strategic goals into actionable physical plans, the importance of inclusive design, and the future of learning environments.
Heather emphasizes the need for institutions to adapt to changing student needs and the role of technology in enhancing learning experiences.
The conversation also touches on the importance of stakeholder engagement and the evolving landscape of higher education.

Episode 5 - Human-Centered Technology in Campus Design - A Conversation with Paul Chavez
In this episode, we explore the critical importance of the intersection of human experience design and technology in educational environments.
We discuss how buildings can serve as extensions of human capabilities, the importance of adapting learning spaces for digital natives, and the need for holistic technology integration in campus design.
Our conversation also touches on sustainability, the risks of siloed planning, and the potential impact of emerging technologies like AR on education.
Key takeaways include:
- Experience design is about solving user problems, not just technology.
- Buildings should be seen as extensions of human capabilities.
- Different learning environments foster different types of thinking.
You can read Paul Chavez' insightful article "A Design Framework for Digital Buildings," here.

Episode 4 - Exploring the Future of AI-Enabled Education Spaces - A Conversation with AI
In this special edition episode of the EdUp Smart Space podcast, host Craig Park and AI co-host Abby explore the transformative impact of artificial intelligence on academic facilities.
They discuss how AI enhances space utilization, integrates various systems for smarter learning environments, and predicts future needs.
The conversation also covers the importance of equity and access, ethical considerations in AI implementation, advancements in classroom AV technologies, user interface innovations, and the shift toward wireless collaboration.
The episode concludes with a forward-looking perspective on the future of learning environments as adaptive, responsive spaces that enhance the educational experience.

Episode 3 - Designing for Experience - A Conversation with Don Merritt, PhD
If you’ve ever wondered how top-tier universities create tech-enabled classrooms that actually improve learning outcomes, you won’t want to miss this conversation with Don Merritt, PhD, Director of Instructional Resources at the University of Central Florida.
From standardization to immersive learning environments, Don shares how UCF turns bold ideas into scalable, sustainable solutions.
We talk about real-world strategies for planning smarter, supporting faculty, and designing future-ready spaces that meet the evolving expectations of today’s students. Plus, hear how UCF’s “Sandbox” approach helps avoid costly tech missteps—and why AI, AV-over-IP, and massive dvLED displays are reshaping the classroom experience. Whether you’re a campus planner, AV integrator, or tech-savvy educator, this episode is packed with actionable insights you can use now—and a vision for what’s comes after what comes next.
Listen now and join the conversation about the future of education at the EdUp Experience.
Bonus: You can read more about Don's insights on planning here!
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Episode 2 - Engaging the Next Generation of Learners - A Conversation with Kate Portenier
What happens when a 20-year classroom veteran brings her passion for learning to the front lines of education innovation?
In Episode 2 of EdUp Smart Space, I talk with Kate Portenier, Executive Director of the Foundation for Adams Central Public Schools, about what it takes to engage the next generation of learners.
From interactive classrooms and AR dissection labs to football stadium displays run by students—Kate shares how rural schools are redefining tech-forward education.
Tune in as we explore:
- The shift from “sage on the stage” to “guide on the side”
- The role of AI, AR/VR, and gamification in learning
- Why student voice should shape the spaces they learn
Listen now and join the conversation about the future of education.
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Episode 1: Why Early Technology Planning is Critical - A Conversation with Michael Leiboff
Welcome to the first episode of the new EdUp Smart Space Podcast.
In this episode, I talk with my long-time friend and collaborator, Michael Leiboff, retired managing principal of the EdTech Planning Group.
Mike and I have been technology planners for over 40 years. We share stories, perspectives, insights, and lessons learned over our careers.
For those interested in more information on a framework for agile planning for campus technology, please see my article The EdTech Navigator that appeared in Campus Technology, 5/24.
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EdUp Smart Space Podcast Intro
Hello!
I’m Craig Park, your host on the new EdUp Smart Space podcast series. I’m excited to take you on a journey to explore how technology is transforming the spaces where students learn, collaborate, and innovate.
In each episode, we'll explore the latest trends in AV, IT, security, wireless, AI-enabled smart systems, and sustainable campus design, featuring insights from ed-tech leaders, architects, engineers, and technology integrators.
Together, we’ll tackle the big question:
What comes after what comes next?
Let’s build the campus of the future—today.
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